Originally Posted by formula M
The people who want an s65 type engine in their new M3, have really lost touched with reality.
First, why even wish for an outgoing (outdated) engine in a new car(?), and why would bi-turbo'ing it, even matter..? Then it would have 600HP and who really cares about horsepower..?
If u take the WEIGHT of the next M3, u want enough HP to accelerate THAT vehicle... and you design the engine (& car) around your new metric. How can anyone ignorantly claim (even jokeningly) that a 8 cylindar is wanted, needed, or even logical..?
Hint: The 1M has a 3.0 engine @ 400hp/400lb-ft of torque (tweaked)...
Since BMW is shopping 450hp, then u have to base ANY & ALL thoughts with this logic & reasoning in mind. Otherwise, it isn't even an educated want/opinion, it just blabbering.
The new engine will be close to a 3.5 liter, turbocharcged 6 cylindar. In-line, V or Boxed... The configuration of the cylindars is all we are discussing here, plus the virtues of each design.
Again, we all know it is going to be turbo'ed (bi, or tri..), so can we please stop with the overly ignorant banter and be a tad bit more germane? This board is starting to sound like girly talk, instead of BMW talk.
In-the-end, it really doesn't matter what design BMW chooses, just as long as the metrics are there & the drivertrain is good. Plus, how many people even understand the technology in their s65, or s63..? Let alone tri-turbo..
Coincidentally, how many people have driven a 1M coupe, & suggested the car is ruined by the engine?
I think you are out to lunch my friend.
Who said they have to make a 600 hp tt S65. If they choose to add turbo's to the s65 the main reason will be for increased efficiency instead of increased power. Lowering compression, heat efficiency via turbocharging, making same power at lower rpms due to said turbocharging, cylinder deactivation at part throttle are all ways that they could accomplish this.
If they so choose they could use the S65 with TT and tweaking and achieve the targetted power of 450-500hp and get better mileage than the current one. I suspect the efficiency of the V6 may be slightly better even with these tweaks and this may determine the ultimate decision in the end.