Originally Posted by Levi
Because you would take an example of a 911 Turbo? Even the 911 Turbo is no 911 GT3. And look how the MP4-12C failed against the 458 Italia. Of course they are better than a Cooper S or Golf GTI, but they also cost more. Don't expect GT-R technology in an M3. However I agree, that M knows the problem and does its best, fact the 1M and M5. So no doubt the M3 F80 will be good.
Anything is a better comparison than a Mini Cooper and a Golf. It would not surprise me if the next-gen M3 motor is just as good a tool as the current 911 Turbo motor.
Going to drive the 458 and MP4 in two weeks, then I can give input on that comparo. Most of the reviews I've read of the MP4 seem like the drivers are confused in terms of what the car is going to do; not necessarily a complaint about the motor.