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Originally Posted by neilum
Former B8 s4 owner here as well. I truly feel in stock form the S4 leaves a lot to be desired. I wasn't overly impressed with my Audi until installed an APR tune, Alu Kreutz, Eurocode end links, sway bar and an AWE exhaust. Once all that is done it was a fun car (still very heavy) but in stock form the damn thing was about as vanilla as it gets with no real character.
I crossed shopped an S3 with the M3 but in the end the M3 is a way sharper, more potent car. If you like to race people at stop lights in the rain then sure the Audi would be a better car, but you're comparing a FWD based Haldex fake quattro system with a properly sorted RWD sports car. I also felt it I was to buy the S3, it was such a lateral move from the S4 that it didn't make any sense to switch cars in the first place.
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The M3 is for sure the more raw and exciting car. However, cross shopping the two is just not ideal. I mean, the S3/S4 isn't meant to be a track bitch, it's meant to be a fun, comfortable, and capable daily.
Plus for $370 you can buy a plug-n-play JB1 piggyback that makes the car run low 12s @110-114, all else being stock. The FWD biased Haldex is actually quite good. The handling is great and I love the steering. Fun car, but doesn't hold a candle to the F80/82.