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Originally Posted by m3alabama
Does no other m owners or any enthusiasts not value more than power in a car? Even balance, which is what an M is about is only one special characteristic. Does nobody value the following-
1.Having a ONE-OFF engine unique to the m3 which nobody else has access to or no other car uses. Engineered tirelessly (via s85) to have the highest output per litre they ever had and one of the highest in the industry. To have the flattest torque curve in the industry that is flatter than most turbo cars which are the ones typically have fat curves. To rev to 8400 rpms which is bested by only a modern ferrari/lambo.
2.The sound? I don't know about some of you but my m3 is a street car and a very minor part time tracker. Every single day you can listen and enjoy the racing sound of a high strung v8 s65! You often cannot exploit the full power of any car, so I feel having a beautiful noise is half of the daily enjoyment.
Having something in common with F1 tech. A high strung v8 just feels special. Now F1 will go v6 turbo and no longer any link to them even if it was only conceptually.
I dont know. There is more to be missed than simply the fact the turbo will put out more torque and power.
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How is the S63tü not exclusive? You lost me there. And the torque curve being flat has more to do with gearing than the engine with the M cars.
The new S engine in F80 will be unique. Last time I checked; outside the S85 and S65 M tuned or worked base BMW AG engines. Hell, the Brabham F1 car used a BMW engine as the base.
The S85/65 were created as part of the F1 marketing budget- ads always pointed to F1- the V10 was created as F1 transitioned out and the V8 was simply built by lopping off two cylinders. There really was little in common with F1 except the high revs and throttle body per cylinder.
Its a shame they used F1 as the marketing model because F1 had little impact on street cars- I wish they would have just done it their own way (like they are doing now), at least then we'd have DI/Valvetronic and get a bit more fuel economy and additional response.
Having recently driven the 4.4l liter version of the S65, I can say that the S63tü is much better suited for daily driving and is much more fun when not running 9/10ths.