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      05-21-2012, 12:25 AM   #15
seanwillnotreturn
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Originally Posted by bimmerjph View Post
Because BMW has marketed the I6's advantage. We love the I6. We have driven V-6's and we still want an I6. BMW has never made a V-6 engine. They have only made an I4, I6, V8, V10, V-12, and they did a one off V-16. So yes there is tradition in the brand. The I6 is one of the traits that separates BMW from the competition.

There was some bitching about the E90 M3 if I recall. But it was still a high-revving NA engine derived from motorsports. The new F80 M3 will not be high revving NA engine, and it isn't derived from a race car. And I don't know if it will ever be used to race. DTM isn't turbo (I think), and LMS/ALMS are only turbo for diesels.


I am curious. How long have you had a BMW?
Not for long, since M3 set foot on China.

But i've been seeing for long how I6 325i (claimed 230+hp) struggles on competition with japanese Reiz (claimed 210+hp) V6 on straight (sry cornor is not much about engine).

Luck we have 8 cylinder "Ved", i doubt if it could make 350hp or rev at all if it'd have stayed I8...

But track back old times, E46 M3 with I6 did see its dominance, just too good to compete with other cars of its kind and E46 csl can even be the match of 996 RS. Things changed a little bit coming into E9X vs 997 era, if we say E9X can still handle 997.1s then 997.2(without s) can beat M3 both in drag race and track, we no longer invite 997 RS. It's not for M3 falling but for E46, a sedan based car, already too perfect to evolute, nothing can a V8 do to keep the crown.

Try think this way, you gotta ask yourself, with 4.4L tuned 460 NA V8, can M3/M4 beat 991s (only 400hp)? Only in your dream. But with 3.0/3.2/3.3 turbo? Maybe we are thinking about a showdown (after mod) with 991 turbo.

BMW ought to do it V6. The overall tax rates scales with engine size in many countries. For example in our region, 4.0+ is 250% while 3.0+ is 96%. People are paying 458 price to get M3. There are quite a few other countries out there more or less the same.

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