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      04-03-2012, 06:28 AM   #15
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So both M4 and M2 will have 6 cylinder engines? I don't think. The N55 is a heavy engine. An M2 with 360 PS from a 2.2l I4, with a more rev friendly engine, much lighter and with better balance would make the M2 remarkably better than the M235i. It would be like an M3 CSL in terms of power, weight, size and of course handling, but even better thanks to higher torque.

The 1M is not much more powerful than the 135i however it is by far a better handling car. The same goes for the M2 vs. M235i. The 1 Series with N54/N55 feels nose heavy compared to the 3 Series with this engine. In fact a 128i E82 has a better handling than the 135i E82, just not the straight line performance, but also better response and sound. The N55 is not rev-friendly as it has longer stoke, what is not the case of the S63 stroke, which is undersquared, so more rev-friendly, what an M should be about.
Let us just yesterday and today and mix a little look into the crystal ball:

So far, M3 and M5 a unique position with its engines.
On the 3-series, there were 4 - and 6-cylinder engines and the V8 in the M3 was a unique feature. Similarly, at the 5-series, there were 4 -, 6 - and 8-cylinder, and the V10 was reserved for the M5.
Since the 1-series but it was already 6-cylinder, just had to take a higher performance i6 the spearhead for a V8 was out of the question.

Today, the M5 has only a V8, which is also available in the series. The M3 will get a V6 with 3.3 liters, which will also eventually be found next to the M4 in the Z4M and X3M place. But even here there are 6-cylinder in the standard models.
In this respect remain the 1M or M2 get a 2.2-I4 ... he will be uprated to a 3.0 i6.

Looking now again back in history, one can also speculate even know how it could look Performance-wise:
1985 M5 (E28) 286 hp
1986 M3 (E30) 195 hp
1988 M5 (E34) 315 hp
1989 M3 (E30) 215 hp
1990 M3 (E30) 238 hp
1992 M3 (E36) 286 hp
1992 M5 (E34) 340 hp
1996 M3 (E36) 321 hp
1998 M5 (E39) 400 hp
2000 M3 (E46) 343 hp
2005 M5 (E60) 507 hp
2007 M3 (E90) 420 hp
2011 M5 (F10) 560 hp
There were always between 60 hp and 100 hp difference between M3 and M5. As cross-talk could be about 80 hp of the E60 and E90 voted yes on almost.
Since the new M5 has 560 hp and should follow the tradition of the M3, then you can go from 460 hp to 480 hp.
If the next 1M or M2 join the ranks there, he will certainly make between 380 hp and 400 hp and it will not be able to use 2.2 i4.
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