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      01-24-2013, 11:11 PM   #256
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Originally Posted by car7 View Post
There will be an M3 aswell, the 4 door. They make a new car, the 4 series. They wanna make an M-version of it, they call it the M4. Or do you think the M-model should be the only one called M3 even if it is a 4 series? This makes no sense. How can people take the name that seriously?

Why would it be an souped up 335? That is just stupid. This car will probably be more different from the regular 4 series than any M3 before. Just because its gonna have a six and turbos its a 335? More lightweight parts than ever before, probably alot of new inventions and so on. And aswell judging from the pictures, probably the sexiest car BMW ever made. Also the 4 series is rumored to be about 2000 euros/dollars more. Not a big difference from the current generation.
What's the benefit of calling it a 4 series?
What does it add to the car?
The only reason BMW is doing this is they saw how much more Audi were asking for the A5 over the A4
I'm saying you've been calling the 2 and 4 door 3 series a 3 series for 3 or 4 decades
It's been working great
Why fuck with a car all the manufacturers are trying to imitate?

And yes I do feel it shares too many parts with the 335
It's basically the same engine, but with some nice parts tacked on
With the 1m they used the 335is engine but stuck on a "powered by m" sticker on it, but claimed it was all fine tuned and specially made for the 1m etc

This is more of the same
They realized the M badge sells
So they're Whoring it out
Thing is, and I don't think they understand this (that's the problem when your marketing people overtake your engineers) that the M badge won't be worth so much if they continue to make cars like this

Am I willing to pay the same premium for an M3 when I know I can probably get the same car if I get a 335 and do a nice tune?
No
I was willing to pay a markup for the e92 M3 (twice) because I know how many parts were different. I was paying more for bespoke parts.
I'm not paying a markup just because it has an M badge

M stood for motorsports
Does it still mean the same for BMW?
Your argument is valid and invalid at the same time. I kinda understand where ur coming from, the S65 V8 is made from scratch, it's naturally aspirated engine, no turbo and no supercharged crap.. So r u mad because its not going to be the case anymore? Is that what u meant by "M engineering" Ok I kinda agree, I'm a little mad too, the E9X M3 will remain exclusive for the rest of our lives, but if the reason u r mad is the number change M3, M4 ... Then that's a bit excessive. What difference does it make. There is an M5 sedan and M6 coupe.. So let be an M3 sedan and M4 coupe...
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