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Originally Posted by sycd

We'll see, but from what I've read so far I'm glad to have a S65; not much appeal in a M3/4 engine if it's basically a tuned 335. The last V8 M3 will be an icon just like the last V10 M5.

And the V8 is "just" a V10 with 2 cylinders chopped off... While I respect the V10 just like any car enthusiast out there, where is it now? They've depreciated so much that they can be had for low $30k all day. Not to mention it gets SMOKED by the F10 M5 in every performance category, not to mention fuel economy.

At the very MINIMUM, the next gen M3 will at least match 414hp on paper. When has BMW EVER in the history of the company come out with equal or less HP on any engine it replaces? And if it's at the minimum 414, then I wouldn't be surprised if it was actually rated at closer to 440hp. Look at what N20, N55 and S63 engines are putting down on the dyno. Would then all the people here that say +400 hp is not enough be happy (since when is 400 not enough anyway)

Let's use some common sense around here.