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Originally Posted by kingikra
Why are you confused? I prefer to stay under 500KMs but I said that I don't mind to exceed this amount if it'll worth it. It's another 4 Euro for each additional KM.
Have you clicked on the link I have provided to the thread I have opened?
There are links to the routes I'm planning to drive to:
http://www.speedhunters.com/2013/04/...an-serpentine/
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First link is dead. The second one works. Yes, that area is nice to drive. I've driven there often. But the first part of the drive is kind of boring until you get way out of the Munich proper area. But what can one do... every city has traffic. Once you travel down the
B11 and into
Icking - the views get better.
I would suggest driving this area...
https://www.google.de/maps/dir/Sudel...0739!3e0?hl=en
I happen to think the A8 Autobahn around the Irschenberg area is quite an interesting Autobahn. The road seems to be a roller coaster here and the views are amazing. Just don't speed where those electronic road speed signs are... because they have cameras in them!
You could exit at
Irschenberg and take the
B472 road into
Miesbach and then either down to
Bayrischzell or
Schliersee or
Tegernsee. Bayrischzell makes more sense I think.
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Saw your article about Tatzelwurmstraße. I think it is too much to drive from Munich for a 9 minutes winding road drive. Am I wrong? Does it worth it?
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I like the Tatzelwurmstraße. Its short but nice. Everyone I take there enjoys the drive. It goes from a very narrow tight road on the private "toll" side near Brannenburg, and then it dumps onto the wide, carving road - which everyone drives.
When I drive the Tatzelwurmstraße, I always like to start out is this small village of
Brannenburg. Just past the intersection at the traffic light.(Sudelfeldstraße 11, 83098 Brannenburg) then it becomes a private toll road costing 4 euros, and then it dumps you onto the main
Tatzelwurmstraße and then follow up to
Bayrischzell. From there all the roads are nice.
https://www.google.de/maps/dir/Sudel...2016!3e0?hl=en
The roads around Bayrischzell are quite nice to drive. It's classic Bavaria there. Every summer they have a Bayrischzell Oldtimer Rally... so you know this area is nice!
Also another nice road to drive is down by
Berchtesgaden, is the
B305 and then the
B999 Roßfeld-Höhenringstraße. You will cross into Austria and then back into Germany... but the only way you know other than seeing a few signs is that the road markers change from Germany mile markers to the Austria all white sticks.
The road is very curvy and challenging/fun to drive. I give it highmarks to drive for an afternoon.
Berchtesgaden is very famous for the
Eagle's Nest and other wartime landmarks in that area. The famous
Zum Turken Hotel located(in Ober Salzburg, outside the city) with its creepy catacombs(tunnels) is also cool to visit. Not so much the hotel, though. But the roads around this area are quite nice to drive. Next door to the Zum Turken was where Hitler's home the Berg Hof use to stand before we bombed it. But the driveway is still there and you can walk off the road to see what's left of it. There is also a Museum on the Nazi's past history - just up the road. It's interesting IF you are into historical stuff.
Maybe driving a route like this would interest you... starting at around
Bernau am Chiemsee and then down and around
Berchtesgaden and the world famous
Rossfeld Panorama Strasse.
https://www.google.de/maps/dir/Berna...!1m0!3e0?hl=en
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OK. That is why I have asked you  You know better than me as I only drove the B500 (Schwarzwaldstraße) 5 months ago. Except that I've never been in any other winding road around Europe.
As for taking it to Austria, I'm not sure yet. I might be able to do that.
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Well... I really love Southern Bayern and Austria. Like I have said before Kufstein(Austria) is quite nice. I often drive with friend's from Germany into Kufstein, takin the back roads...
Bayrischzell --> Kufstein
https://www.google.de/maps/dir/Kufst...2016!3e0?hl=en
When driving back into Germany from Kufstein I always take the back roads... back into Germany. The refugee problem this last year has made the German's put up temporary border controls on the A93(sometimes). When they do... the traffic heading North into Germany will back up past Kufstein. So I always take this route...
Kufstein, Austria --> Oberaudorf --> Brannenburg
https://www.google.de/maps/dir/Kufst...2414!3e0?hl=en
Just past Kufstein in Wörgl is a really sweet hotel I am fond of:
Hotel Schlossblick in Angerberg / Wörgl. The hotel is relatively renovated and the family that runs it are very friendly. The hotel is located in the country side and they have horses and a river that runs in front of the hotel. Cross country skiing is also available. The rooms are very fairly priced at under 100 euros per night that include a four course meal. I can't say enough nices things about this small hotel.
As you drive to the hotel you will pass
Mariastein(a old castle) which the hotel has a view of - way down the road. You can continue driving from Mariastein down to
Brandenberg(Austria) and that little mountain pass road is tons of fun! Hardly any traffic - a road to no where. But it is a nice little secret road that even Porsche and BMW test driver's know very well.
https://www.google.de/maps/dir/Maria...6621!3e0?hl=en
Another idea is to drive fr om
Wiesing, Austria to
Sylvensteinstausee, 83676 Jachenau (Germany) and then take the
B307 or the
B13. Jachenau(
Walchensee - lake is also close by from here!).
https://www.google.de/maps/dir/6210+...7733!3e0?hl=en
Btw... in Oberaudorf is a great little restaurant called:
Bernhard´s Stammhaus - Restaurant & Hotel. The food is a little pricy(by German standards, but not by American standards) but its worth it.
https://www.google.de/maps/place/Ber...!6m1!1e1?hl=en
Just South West of Munich is
Andechs Monastery. They have a really nice restaurant & beer garden there. And they have a very nice church - although I have never gone inside. lol I just enjoy driving around that area and sampling the delicious foods Andechs serves. It can make for a nice pit stop on a long back road drive. Andechs even has a restaurant in MarienPlatz in downtown Munich. I can recommend both places.
Andechs Monastery, Bergstraße, Andechs & the Ammersee...
https://www.google.de/maps/place/And....1828171?hl=en
Andechs Monastery, Bergstraße, Andechs
https://www.google.de/maps/place/And....1828171?hl=en
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I'm less interested in sight seeing and more in driving but I sure am going to read your review about this drive as I'm planning to fly to Germany once every 6 months.
Thanks a lot!
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Cool, thanks. Well... everyone needs to stop every now and then while driving. I always enjoy sightseeing places off the beaten path.
Kochelsee... In this lake area is a nice old restaurant called:
Seehotel Grauer Bär(the Grey Bear) - Restaurant - Café. I remember having a nice dinner there like 18 years ago... and near the bathrooms they had all these Grand Prix race car photos on the walls. Hans Stuck Senior drove on the Kesselbergstraße in the 1930's. This area has some nice roads leading from the two lakes. I can't imagine what it was like to drive a race car on those roads... back then, let alone today!
On the B11 road, near the Walchensee-Museum was where I took that photo of THE first (fatal)road car accident in Germany... in 1896!! It was on one of the hairpin turns over looking the lake. It was on our right hand side as we drove from the Walchensee to the Kochelsee - I believe. There was a rather large scenic overlook place to pull over on the side of the main road.
Ok, that's about all I can think of at the moment. I hope this gives you some ideas on where to drive. IF you ever do drive into Austria... I would highly recommend driving the
Hahntennjoch Pass and the
Timmelsjoch(aka Solden Pass).
take care,
Dackel