F80 M3 arrives at the Nurburgring for testing - Page 3

RT8_M3 · 10-18-2011, 05:52 PM

The camo has changed a lot since the first spy pics. Def still able to tell the wider body is there.

kmarei · 10-18-2011, 07:40 PM

If Audi is working on a S Q5, I guarantee you BMW will make a X3M

blackshan · 10-18-2011, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by danniexi

Quote:

Originally Posted by kmarei

$50 says its a 3.3L V6
i.e an M5 engine with a quarter chopped off
let me know when you heard that before...

THIS. Exactly what I was thinking.

They did the same with the previous E60 M5 V10, chopped two cylinders off, tuned it, and put it in the E92 M3. I wouldn't be surprised if they did the same from the current F10 M5 (V8TT) to the future F80 M3 (V6 TT).

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also I hope the next m has better or similar performance to the new m5!

pearlwhites · 10-18-2011, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Red Bread

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Originally Posted by express705

it just looks like it has some variant of a 6 cyl... look how jacked the front is. not looking like the weight of an 8 cyl.

keeping my hopes up!!!!!

Given that the S65 was lighter than the S54, and likely lighter than the N54/N55, this is flawed logic. But go ahead keep your hopes up, I'd like to see one last n/a M motor too.

N54 was 195 kg vs 202 kg for s65...

jshen · 10-18-2011, 08:41 PM

I hope I hear some 2012 M3s get released. Everyone's been waiting forever and I'm scheduled to fly down to LA to pickup my car next weekend which is only a few days after the ship gets to the VPC.

scott135i · 10-18-2011, 08:46 PM

Anyone want to make a serious cash bet with me on turbo vs n/a. I'll bet anything it's turbo given that every new model is pretty much turbo....

Any takers?

seoulmandmd · 10-18-2011, 09:44 PM

What direction?

Do these come with all bolts and stuff?

Ateam · 10-18-2011, 10:12 PM

I am sure it is the m3 but just a note that there has NEVER been an m test mule, atleast dating back to the e39 M5 and all m's since that did not have quad exhaust.

Take of that what you will. I think this is a 335is personally and not an m3

FlashTwoSix · 10-18-2011, 11:16 PM

can someone explain why this future M3 is called an F80 M3 and not an F30 M3?

TysonRa · 10-19-2011, 12:53 AM

I did not read the whole thread, but read some statements.
!!
I bought the new sport cars magaine, and there is a "M special" in it, with an interview with
Dr. F. Nitschke.

I can scan the pages about the "M special" in, and post it in m3post...
but the statements I want to share:

-NO V6! He says that if the new M3 gets an six cylinder engine, it will be an inline!!!!
-There will be nor X3M and X1M in the near future

so if you want me to put this up, I do this right after work!

Uli_HH · 10-19-2011, 03:33 AM

Sad news to see this early M3-mule testing again

... think it´s the only one with the "cheap" R6 under the hood ... the other M3-prototyps with the complete M Bodykit under the camo have all the new and innovative V6!

Greets Uli_HH

b33g33 · 10-19-2011, 05:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Mark

I include the word decision because as there is debate among enthusiast circles about what will power the next M3, rumors are floating around that BMW is trialing a few different power train options. Rumors have run the gambit from NA V8 to FI I6 and even FI V6.

I think you mean "gamut"

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/run_the_gamut

#corrections

mkoesel · 10-19-2011, 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by kmarei

If Audi is working on a S Q5, I guarantee you BMW will make a X3M

The Q5 S is, to the best of my knowledge, going to get the superchared V6 from the S4 and S5 cab. That's really just Audi's answer to the X3 35i, like the S4/S5 are to the 335i. They'll need an Q5 RS - something with 400hp or more - to properly go up against an X3 M.

mkoesel · 10-19-2011, 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by FlashTwoSix

can someone explain why this future M3 is called an F80 M3 and not an F30 M3?

SCOTT might be able to shed some light on that, if he is so inclined.

No one else really knows what the change in chassis code signifies yet...

Uli_HH · 10-19-2011, 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by mkoesel

SCOTT might be able to shed some light on that, if he is so inclined.

No one else really knows what the change in chassis code signifies yet...

The reason for the special chassis code for the M3/M4 is to show that the M3 is not the top model of the 3er series ... the M3 is an sportscar only in an 3er outfit and no 3er.

Greats Uli_HH

mkoesel · 10-19-2011, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Uli_HH

The reason for the special chassis code for the M3/M4 is to show that the M3 is not the top model of the 3er series ... the M3 is an sportscar only in an 3er outfit and no 3er.

Greats Uli_HH

I strongly doubt that the reason is purely symbolic since they don't use chassis codes as a marketing tool to begin with.

Also, let me restate it another way for emphasis:

No one knows why the new M5 and M6 retain the chassis code from the series model while the new M3 and M4 are rumored not to. That is, no one knows what the significance of these two diverging naming schemes is yet.

Levi · 10-19-2011, 09:59 AM

The chassis code changes because of some significative differences compared to F30 not that we should expect full carbon fiber chassis.

Really Uli_HH? It is again a cheap I6 instead of an innovative V6? No.

JasonCSU · 10-19-2011, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Ateam

I am sure it is the m3 but just a note that there has NEVER been an m test mule, atleast dating back to the e39 M5 and all m's since that did not have quad exhaust.

Take of that what you will. I think this is a 335is personally and not an m3

That's not true. Early test mules of the 1M did not have the quad exhaust, which can be seen here:

http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=381592

http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=376495

SCOTT26 · 10-19-2011, 10:24 AM

Do not rely on these interviews in automotive circles to tell you what is happening because it is pure diversion. Although you think you are getting the hard facts. It is not the time to announce anything substantial.

But some drop little hints or branches to let you know something is afoot.

Interview with Ian Robertson for UK Broadsheet.

There have been rumors that the new Coupe and Cabrio will be carrying a 4-series badge. What does this mean for the M3?
"The M3 is enormously important to us" I cannot confirm the rumours, but whatever the badges on the bootlid, there will be an M3 Model.

Note- Whatever the badges. and There will be an M3 model instead of model(s).

jshen · 10-19-2011, 11:40 AM

The OEM 18s are no longer gray.

ATX78703 · 10-19-2011, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by kmarei

If Audi is working on a S Q5, I guarantee you BMW will make a X3M

If Audi working on a SQ5, I guarantee BMW will make a x3 with an m-sport pkg and performance pack option for the n55....

oh wait....

mkoesel · 10-19-2011, 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Levi

The chassis code changes because of some significative differences compared to F30

That's reasonable, general conjecture, but again no one has any idea what that might entail.

10-18-2011, 07:40 PM	#46
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SCOTT26 Lieutenant Colonel Drives: Amazonite Silver Beauty Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: WORLDWIDE Posts: 1,964 iTrader: (0)	Do not rely on these interviews in automotive circles to tell you what is happening because it is pure diversion. Although you think you are getting the hard facts. It is not the time to announce anything substantial. But some drop little hints or branches to let you know something is afoot. Interview with Ian Robertson for UK Broadsheet. There have been rumors that the new Coupe and Cabrio will be carrying a 4-series badge. What does this mean for the M3? "The M3 is enormously important to us" I cannot confirm the rumours, but whatever the badges on the bootlid, there will be an M3 Model. Note- Whatever the badges. and There will be an M3 model instead of model(s). __________________ 4.

10-19-2011, 11:40 AM	#64
jshen BMW CCA Lifetime Member Drives: 2012 E92 M3 - 6MT Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: NorCal Posts: 44 iTrader: (0)	The OEM 18s are no longer gray. __________________ 2012 E92 M3 Coupe - Interlagos Blue 2008 E90 335i - Titanium Silver (soon to be retired) 2007 R56 Mini Cooper S - Mellow Yellow 2007 E86 Z4 M Coupe - Titanium Silver (retired) 2004 E46 330i ZHP - Mystic Blue (retired)

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RT8_M3 drives a BMW Drives: e46 M3/F10 535i/e93 335i Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: La Jolla & Walnut Posts: 470 iTrader: (0)	The camo has changed a lot since the first spy pics. Def still able to tell the wider body is there.

10-18-2011, 09:44 PM	#51
seoulmandmd Private First Class Drives: 335i Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Bay Area Posts: 126 iTrader: (6)	What direction? Do these come with all bolts and stuff?

10-18-2011, 10:12 PM	#52
Ateam Banned Drives: M3 Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: USA Posts: 1,111 iTrader: (0)	I am sure it is the m3 but just a note that there has NEVER been an m test mule, atleast dating back to the e39 M5 and all m's since that did not have quad exhaust. Take of that what you will. I think this is a 335is personally and not an m3

10-18-2011, 11:16 PM	#53
FlashTwoSix Enlisted Member Drives: E90 MotorSport3 Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: OKC Posts: 47 iTrader: (0)	can someone explain why this future M3 is called an F80 M3 and not an F30 M3?

10-19-2011, 12:53 AM	#54
TysonRa Private First Class Drives: E92 M3 Competition Package Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Ra Posts: 198 iTrader: (0)	I did not read the whole thread, but read some statements. !! I bought the new sport cars magaine, and there is a "M special" in it, with an interview with Dr. F. Nitschke. I can scan the pages about the "M special" in, and post it in m3post... but the statements I want to share: -NO V6! He says that if the new M3 gets an six cylinder engine, it will be an inline!!!! -There will be nor X3M and X1M in the near future so if you want me to put this up, I do this right after work!

10-19-2011, 03:33 AM	#55
Uli_HH Lieutenant Drives: AW M3 E90)/ 523i Touring Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Hamburg Germany Posts: 516 iTrader: (0)	Sad news to see this early M3-mule testing again ... think it´s the only one with the "cheap" R6 under the hood ... the other M3-prototyps with the complete M Bodykit under the camo have all the new and innovative V6! Greets Uli_HH

10-19-2011, 09:59 AM	#61
Levi Colonel Drives: Alfa Romeo Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 2,532 iTrader: (0)	The chassis code changes because of some significative differences compared to F30 not that we should expect full carbon fiber chassis. Really Uli_HH? It is again a cheap I6 instead of an innovative V6? No.

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