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      01-06-2012, 10:38 AM   #23
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As pretty much everyone here knows, Car and Driver just recently tested the F10 M5 and obtained the following results:

0-60: 3.7 seconds (I assume with 1ft rollout)
1/4 mile: 12.0 @ 122 mph

That being said, assuming an F80 M3 with 450-465 hp and 3600-3650lb weight, what are everyone's predictions in terms of acceleration (I believe the slalom/skidpad will be better, with slightly less weight and wider track than E90)?

I'm thinking, since C&D got 3.9 seconds 0-60 and 12.4 quarter mile 114 with the ZCP E92, the F80 should be at least slightly faster - however, we also know that BMW in the past did not want the M3 to be quite as fast as an M5 in straight-line acceleration.

Perhaps:

0-60: 3.8 seconds (with 1ft rollout)
1/4 mile: 12.1-12.2 seconds 119-120 mph?
Hopefully it will be faster around the track than the M5.
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      01-06-2012, 10:50 AM   #24
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Hopefully it will be faster around the track than the M5.
Yes, he will be ....
Under the right times, leaked the so ... then the M5 is approximately 7:50 on the Nordschleife!
... and the M3 (F80), he is beaten by 10 seconds!
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it is never going to be less than 4.0 sec
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Yes, he will be ....
Under the right times, leaked the so ... then the M5 is approximately 7:50 on the Nordschleife!
... and the M3 (F80), he is beaten by 10 seconds!
If new m3 is 10 sec faster than m5, it means 7:40. It also means that F80 M 3 is 25 seconds faster than E9x M3 at the ring. Thats significantly faster than previous gen. m3. I hope its true. If it is, i will not trade my m3 for 2013 GTR. We will have to wait and see.
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      01-16-2012, 03:55 AM   #27
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it is never going to be less than 4.0 sec
Providing reasoning for a statement is encouraged rather than just making the statement.

Please reread this entire (short) thread. Next note that nearly all new generation cars outperform their predecessors. You can also use power to weight arguments as I have done. The logical conclusion is that the car absolutely will be sub 4.0!
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      01-16-2012, 11:32 AM   #28
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Providing reasoning for a statement is encouraged rather than just making the statement.

Please reread this entire (short) thread. Next note that nearly all new generation cars outperform their predecessors. You can also use power to weight arguments as I have done. The logical conclusion is that the car absolutely will be sub 4.0!
I think that is likely as well. I'm more into the fun of driving once you get around this performance level. I'm just hoping the new M3 will be as fun as my E92. I just love the S65 engine.
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Historically, each new gen. m3 outperforms the previous one by a good margin. Lets hope BMW continues this trend. I love S65 engine, especially now, in cold weather(its in 20s F in new york) it performs on another level, much faster. Really feels like a different car. Unfortunately its a lot slower in 70+F. I think naturally aspirated engines benefit a lot from a dense air. And sound is amazing. But ultimately we buy m3 for high performance, so if new m3 is significantly faster, i will probably trade e92 m3 for F80 M3
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I think that is likely as well.
I am still desperately seeking any sound reasoning as to how folks are coming to this conclusion. We can make basic phyiscs and trend based predictions and they all point against your opinion.

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I'm more into the fun of driving once you get around this performance level. I'm just hoping the new M3 will be as fun as my E92. I just love the S65 engine.
That is the big question for the next gen car. I don't think BMW will disappoint. Would I rather have the same performance with NA, sure, but it ain't going to happen.
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I am still desperately seeking any sound reasoning as to how folks are coming to this conclusion. We can make basic phyiscs and trend based predictions and they all point against your opinion.



That is the big question for the next gen car. I don't think BMW will disappoint. Would I rather have the same performance with NA, sure, but it ain't going to happen.
My first statement agrees with you. ???????????????????????????????
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You can here her brains out but it will not change the thing.

BMW currently manages very successfully, to prevent a flow of information from within the company.
Therefore, information is also very sparse.

Only so far seem to stand the following facts established:
- About 440 hp
- Weight to 1400 Kg
- In-line six cylinder engine with turbo

In the inner circle of speculative facts is as follows:
- Nordschleife at the 7:40
- Possibly a whole new concept with two twin turbo Turbos Turbos for a total of four
- 3.0 to 3.3 liters of displacement

Everything else will follow in the coming weeks. Rumor also has a kinematic suspension, the wheels are similar to what a motorcycle tends to curve inwards.
But I am convinced that we will in the coming weeks and months are not without information. For the M5 is on the market, M6 is available in all three variants to be launched shortly, so will start sometime in the near future, the intensive testing with the F80.
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      01-18-2012, 03:52 AM   #33
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My first statement agrees with you. ???????????????????????????????
Sorry buddy, totally misread that the first time. It was obvious on a second reading before i saw this post and knew you would be asking WTF? Cheers.
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Sorry buddy, totally misread that the first time. It was obvious on a second reading before i saw this post and knew you would be asking WTF? Cheers.
No problem.
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