Rumor - Next F80 M3 / M4 to have a 3.2 I6 with 473hp

richardg · 06-21-2012, 11:19 AM

Found this on the web today

BMW's North American President has already confirmed the 2014 M3 will feature an inline-six cylinder engine, but new details are starting to emerge about the upcoming powerplant.
According to BimmerToday's sources, the model will have a 3.2-liter engine that is heavily influenced by the current 4.0-liter V8. It could be turbocharged and have an output of approximately 450 PS (331 kW / 444 hp). There's also word of a performance package which could boost the engine's output to 480 PS (353 kW / 473 hp) and enable the car to hit a top speed of 300 km/h (186 mph).

I really hope there is no performance package. I think the car should just come with that higher output.

Source
http://www.worldcarfans.com/11206204...e-six-cylinder

Red Bread · 06-21-2012, 11:29 AM

Aside from both being four cycle engines, how would a 4.0L V8 influence a 3.2L I6?

leyton2 · 06-21-2012, 01:17 PM

The next m3 needs to raise the BHP game to 500hp minimum, in order to keep its loyal followers happy including myself.

Red Bread · 06-21-2012, 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leyton2

The next m3 needs to raise the BHP game to 500hp minimum, in order to keep its loyal followers happy including myself.

Funny, I actually feel the opposite. I'd much rather see it lose more weight than gain more power. If it still gets miserable mileage I'll continue to ignore it.

FC · 06-21-2012, 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red Bread

Funny, I actually feel the opposite. I'd much rather see it lose more weight than gain more power. If it still gets miserable mileage I'll continue to ignore it.

MUFCbmwbear · 06-21-2012, 02:48 PM

Weight Watchers is a requirement

richardg · 06-21-2012, 03:47 PM

I would rather it lose some weight but it will need to have a sizable power bump if it expects to be competitive. There is no way the car is going to be 3300 or less lbs so I think it should have some good power to stay competitive with the likes of the amg and rs cars.

pkim1079 · 06-21-2012, 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red Bread

Funny, I actually feel the opposite. I'd much rather see it lose more weight than gain more power. If it still gets miserable mileage I'll continue to ignore it.

lets keep it as an m3 not a c63..all that thing is go really fast in a straight line.

cged14 · 06-21-2012, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by pkim1079

lets keep it as an m3 not a c63..all that thing is go really fast in a straight line.

agreed...the C63 is a funny car to drive sideways, but let's be real, the C63 is a hammer while the M3 is a knife...

pkim1079 · 06-21-2012, 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cged14

agreed...the C63 is a funny car to drive sideways, but let's be real, the C63 is a hammer while the M3 is a knife...

m3 is buuutttter (knife)

hwelvaar · 06-21-2012, 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leyton2

The next m3 needs to raise the BHP game to 500hp minimum, in order to keep its loyal followers happy including myself.

If you're just gaming for most BHP, switch brands and you'll be happy.

I hope next M3 will do 'more with less.'

Kayani_1 · 06-22-2012, 01:48 AM

I would rather have a 444hp/3400 lbs M3 over 500hp/3900 lbs M3.

BMWPWR · 06-22-2012, 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kayani_1

I would rather have a 444hp/3400 lbs M3 over 500hp/3900 lbs M3.

Agree, it's harder to cut weight than what it is to boost hp on a turbo motor

M3maniac20 · 06-22-2012, 10:06 AM

I think a performance pkg would be cool. Or maybe make a competition package that adds more power. I know we don't want to go the C63 route, but it is cool when you have an option for more power, like how MB does it.

SD Z4MR · 06-22-2012, 03:09 PM

What's the deal? I posted this same story in a thread two days ago and it was apparently removed with no explanation.

Mods: an explanation please? If I did something wrong how am I supposed to know what it was?

Red Bread · 06-22-2012, 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SD 335is

What's the deal? I posted this same story in a thread two days ago and it was apparently removed with no explanation.

Mods: an explanation please? If I did something wrong how am I supposed to know what it was?

Funny, I did notice that. Your post was up for a few hours, disappeared and then this showed up. Neither has explained one thing that a 4.0L V8 has in common with a 3.2L I6 though.

SCOTT26 · 06-22-2012, 04:06 PM

As far as I know the ceiling for the M3/M4 is 450hp. but they leave a window open for future proposals.
One again I confounded by the "numbers" demand.
An M3 is not just about the numbers, they are of course a signifcant element. But true M3 customers would rather have a high level of precision than a high level of performance.

I recently tried the Audi RS 5 which I was shocked with the lack of precision and communication at a car that Audi justify as a competitor for the M3.
Audi play the numbers game to great effect that everything else is secondary. For Audi to state they are a sporting brand with performance cars on equal slant with BMW M is way off base. Interior quality might be high but enthusiasts require more than "Average". in all key areas.

Zlaatan · 06-22-2012, 05:12 PM

I'm surprised why everyone is not buying that 800hp Supersnake Mustang.. because the only thing people seem to be interested in is how much hp a car produces, nothing else.

No wait, 0-60 is also very important..

pkim1079 · 06-22-2012, 06:34 PM

it seems like everyone on here wants an m3/m4 that goes fast in a straight line. I thought m3's were made to be the most nimble / agile.

bmrm396 · 06-22-2012, 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SCOTT26

As far as I know the ceiling for the M3/M4 is 450hp. but they leave a window open for future proposals.
One again I confounded by the "numbers" demand.
An M3 is not just about the numbers, they are of course a signifcant element. But true M3 customers would rather have a high level of precision than a high level of performance.

I recently tried the Audi RS 5 which I was shocked with the lack of precision and communication at a car that Audi justify as a competitor for the M3.
Audi play the numbers game to great effect that everything else is secondary. For Audi to state they are a sporting brand with performance cars on equal slant with BMW M is way off base. Interior quality might be high but enthusiasts require more than "Average". in all key areas.

+1

cged14 · 06-22-2012, 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pkim1079

it seems like everyone on here wants an m3/m4 that goes fast in a straight line. I thought m3's were made to be the most nimble / agile.

richardg · 06-23-2012, 12:48 AM

Well the reason I am not so concerned with telling BMW to get the precision and dynamics right is because I am sure bmw is going to get it right anyway. I figure BMW brings it's usual magic and we just ask for lots of power and huge brakes.

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Red Bread Colonel Drives: My wife's car Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 2,944 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2013 BMW X1 35i [0.00] 2009 Schwinn Madison [0.00]	Aside from both being four cycle engines, how would a 4.0L V8 influence a 3.2L I6?

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leyton2 New Member Drives: e92 m3 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: london Posts: 8 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2008 BMW M3 [1.00]	The next m3 needs to raise the BHP game to 500hp minimum, in order to keep its loyal followers happy including myself.

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richardg Captain Drives: e36M / e92M / e36 328i Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bloomfield Hills Mi. Posts: 936 iTrader: (2)	I would rather it lose some weight but it will need to have a sizable power bump if it expects to be competitive. There is no way the car is going to be 3300 or less lbs so I think it should have some good power to stay competitive with the likes of the amg and rs cars.

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SCOTT26 Lieutenant Colonel Drives: Amazonite Silver Beauty Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: WORLDWIDE Posts: 1,964 iTrader: (0)	As far as I know the ceiling for the M3/M4 is 450hp. but they leave a window open for future proposals. One again I confounded by the "numbers" demand. An M3 is not just about the numbers, they are of course a signifcant element. But true M3 customers would rather have a high level of precision than a high level of performance. I recently tried the Audi RS 5 which I was shocked with the lack of precision and communication at a car that Audi justify as a competitor for the M3. Audi play the numbers game to great effect that everything else is secondary. For Audi to state they are a sporting brand with performance cars on equal slant with BMW M is way off base. Interior quality might be high but enthusiasts require more than "Average". in all key areas. __________________ 4.

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Zlaatan Private First Class Drives: RWD Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Sweden Posts: 101 iTrader: (0)	I'm surprised why everyone is not buying that 800hp Supersnake Mustang.. because the only thing people seem to be interested in is how much hp a car produces, nothing else. No wait, 0-60 is also very important..

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pkim1079 Major Drives: e90 ///M3 ZCP + e82 135i DCT Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lost angeles Posts: 1,487 iTrader: (0)	it seems like everyone on here wants an m3/m4 that goes fast in a straight line. I thought m3's were made to be the most nimble / agile. __________________ 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8.3 shift! (repeat!!) who needs software when you can tune the DRIVER?

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richardg Captain Drives: e36M / e92M / e36 328i Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bloomfield Hills Mi. Posts: 936 iTrader: (2)	Well the reason I am not so concerned with telling BMW to get the precision and dynamics right is because I am sure bmw is going to get it right anyway. I figure BMW brings it's usual magic and we just ask for lots of power and huge brakes.

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