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      07-18-2012, 02:25 PM   #23
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The new DCT shifts sound fantastic. They have a distinct non current M-DCT sound to them. That could be a FI thing. However, they have a very Ferrari sound to them. Listen to some 458 videos of the car being pushed - you should be able to hear it.

As far as the exhaust note goes I agree not too bad at this point. Better than I expected.
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      07-18-2012, 02:27 PM   #24
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waiting for confirmation on the engine. hopefully it's built like a tank and has great potential like the n54 and is not a dud like the n55. if you were in the market for a new car would you get a cts-v now or wait for the m3 sedan and hope that it's a winner?
The M3 will be a win. BMW M has never missed in the past and doubt they will. If you can wait i would if i were you so that you can test drive both and make a decision based on your needs. I know for me the cts-v would never be an option but thats me
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Say hello to torque and lots of it, even at low RPMs.
Say hello to a more decent fuel range and mileage..
Sound of the engine - tbd.. and no fake speaker sound please..
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Because your M3 lacks torque compared to the 335i and you don't like to rev till 8.400 RPM ?
Because massive torque is more fun than 8000 rpms, but hey that's just me.
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      07-18-2012, 02:33 PM   #26
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Good bye to high revving real deal "M"otorspor engines

Other than that, it sounds good and will look better than the E92 imo
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      07-18-2012, 02:35 PM   #27
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Because massive torque is more fun than 8000 rpms, but hey that's just me.
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      07-18-2012, 02:38 PM   #28
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Yes! It's finally getting sequential manual shift with a V10...
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Jut jokin'

Looks nice though.
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Why does every press release I see about the F80/F80 say that it will have 450 horsepowers?

Does anyone else think it's odd to see this much development and coverage on the F82 before the F32 has even been unveiled?
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      07-18-2012, 02:49 PM   #30
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Why does every press release I see about the F80/F80 say that it will have 450 horsepowers?

Does anyone else think it's odd to see this much development and coverage on the F82 before the F32 has even been unveiled?
The articles here don't say exactly 450hp or say its a confirmed fact. They just say that they expect power to be around 450 horsepowers.
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These sound very close to the 335is... I wonder if it will be a little/bigger twin-turbo set up like on the is with slightly more displacement or will it be 3 turbos. If they shave weight and get the bhp higher with the down low torque.... this will be a very exciting car to have. I would mos def not get the dct in this car. Wonder if it will be pushing ~1.1 bar
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      07-18-2012, 02:57 PM   #33
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      07-18-2012, 03:04 PM   #34
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Say hello to torque and lots of it, even at low RPMs.
Say hello to a more decent fuel range and mileage..
Sound of the engine - tbd.. and no fake speaker sound please..
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Because your M3 lacks torque compared to the 335i and you don't like to rev till 8.400 RPM ?
Because massive torque is more fun than 8000 rpms, but hey that's just me.
You don't know what you're talking
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      07-18-2012, 03:17 PM   #35
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Sounds good.

I don't know what people mean by "good bye 'proper' high reving m car" It's not like the redline on this thing is going to be 5500.

If I recall correctly, the original M3 had a 7200 rpm redline. I doubt the new one will be much less than that. Probably will be quite close to it.

If you had all the people bitching about "not high enough redlines" I am sure you could put black tape over the tach and they would never know the difference.

My lowly yet very satisfying 330i doesn't rev much past 7000 rpm, but it is very entertaining and responsive.
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      07-18-2012, 03:29 PM   #36
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Will everyone stop calling it an M4 !?!?!

That's just blasphemous!
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      07-18-2012, 03:36 PM   #37
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if you were in the market for a new car would you get a cts-v now or wait for the m3 sedan and hope that it's a winner?
Why does everyone always act as if the cts-v is an alternative to the m3? The v is huge and is designed to compete against the m5. Had I decided not to get a m3, the v wouldn't have been an option.
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      07-18-2012, 04:00 PM   #38
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Am i the only one who thinks it doesnt sound bad at all? I think it sounds pretty good actually. Obviously not as good as the outgoing model but with some akrapovic exhaust i bet it would be a beast! Cant wait to see the final form and numbers.
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I think it sounds pretty good. We have to remind ourselves that this is NOT our V8 sound anymore. It's a 6 cyl. so it will sound different.
Once you get past that and acknowledge it, you can appreciate the sound it produces.
I've replayed this video 5 times already, lol
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Because massive torque is more fun than 8000 rpms, but hey that's just me.
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Only non-M3 drivers approve a turbocharged laggy low revving M3.



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I don't know what people mean by "good bye 'proper' high reving m car" It's not like the redline on this thing is going to be 5500. If I recall correctly, the original M3 had a 7200 rpm redline. I doubt the new one will be much less than that. Probably will be quite close to it.
In the time of M3 E30, 7.200 RPM was high. Today any gazoline engine redlines at 7.000 RPM. So for a sportscar like M3, that costs 70.000 , it is low.

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If you had all the people bitching about "not high enough redlines" I am sure you could put black tape over the tach and they would never know the difference.
Sure we would get to know. We can clearly hear that and even feel that.

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My lowly yet very satisfying 330i doesn't rev much past 7000 rpm, but it is very entertaining and responsive.
It is not a question of redline, but of how power is delivered. The N52 is more fun than the N54 and the S54 is even better than the nice N52.



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You havn't understood. I meant this:

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Why does everyone always act as if the cts-v is an alternative to the m3? The v is huge and is designed to compete against the m5. Had I decided not to get a m3, the v wouldn't have been an option.
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Will everyone stop calling it an M4 !?!?!

That's just blasphemous!
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Uh, that's the name of the car!

What should we be calling it?
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Uh, that's the name of the car!

What should we be calling it?

There will still be an M3 but it will be a sedan.
Coupe = M4
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Uh, that's the name of the car!

What should we be calling it?
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Only non-M3 drivers approve a turbocharged laggy low revving M3.
Shit i read that wrong. I thought he said massive torque is more fun at 8,400rpm
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Shit i read that wrong. I thought he said massive torque is more fun at 8,400rpm
All H/R NA engines have "massive" high-end torque. High-end torque is good, but not if it ends at 6.000 RPM or lower like in turbocharged engines.
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