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      09-13-2012, 06:32 PM   #133
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It'll definitely look better in the end. ///M logos and all.
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      09-13-2012, 06:39 PM   #134
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That a2w intercooler looks so small...
The heat capacity of water is much higher than air making it a much more efficient way to cool the charge.
This type of intercooler sucks during prolonged use, I have experience on the Audi platform. Yes the initial charge is much lower for a longer period of time but what happens is the water gradually heats up and causes the intake temps to rise. Once they get to a certain point there is no way to cool the water back down and let the intake temps cool down like letting the car sit on a traditional intercooler or taking it easy for a lap or two. Water takes a long while to cool down as well so once that point happens your track day is done
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      09-13-2012, 06:39 PM   #135
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here's the F30 body chassis with the N55 /
other picts posted is from E90 chassis with N55 -


-would like to see prodcution shots with the bumper off of the F80.
be funny if a you find a hair blow dry'r under there.
just as long as there's plenty of head room for more power from this engine -
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      09-13-2012, 06:49 PM   #136
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I'm a bit disappointed by this.

Rather than engineer a new M engine for the M3, BMW gives us some reworked N55 engine. It's the same story with the M5/6 engine from the X5/6M line. BMW is really cheaping out on the R&D of these engines.

Ya, it'll produce some good power and torque, but it's nothing special in any regard. It will probably be a 3.6L TT I6 making 450HP and redline at 7k. Not impressive at all. When you're starting to charge prices near the GT-R for your car, you need to up the performance ante here; espsecially when $30k American Muscle keeps up with you on the track. The GT-R now gets 545HP from a 3.8L TT V6, and is called the Baby Veyron/Godzilla for a reason. If you're gonna cheap up on beautiful NA racing engines and high red lines, you better bring us more power instead. 450HP is barely worth noting in the performance world today.

After saying all this, I will probably end up getting myself the F80 and doing ED on it. I just worry that BMW is becoming too soft and pandering to the crowds rather than their diehard niche. You win over the crowds by winning over the niche people; that being us performance enthusiasts for M division.

Time will tell.
We agree on the topic of skimping on R&D. I'm holding my judgement until it releases but if there isn't much new technology in there, or if the engine isn't different enough (higher displacement), I'll be disappointed.

But first, how can you say the price is near the GT-R which starts around 100k where this car will start around 60k? That's a nearly 40% difference and I can say I might be in the market for this vehicle and DEFINITELY not a GT-R due to the price alone.

About the American muscle, I feel like a lot of people buy these high performance german cars and not their american counterparts because I feel like a lot of people are looking for the total package. Some American cars match these cars in performance but dont provide the total aural experience and luxury. How many times have we heard people complain about the cheap-o interior on american cars?

Remember an M3 is not a go-fast machine, it's a highly emotional and high precision tool (or at least we expect it to be lol). My E46 M3 is dated as many "regular" cars have 333 horsepower now. To top it off it's a vert so its not the fastest car out there. But I don't get the same feeling driving my friend's Camaro that I get from driving mine. Its just different man.

I'm not sure if I'll buy this new one though unless it gives me that same feeling.
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      09-13-2012, 07:15 PM   #137
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you mean like this?

i love my S14, it's an animal


NoNoNO. Like this:



Now this is a proper sounding ///M power plant. When the intake is louder than the exhaust, its heaven!! Don't mind the valve cover......I took an S38 one with the COP's and cut the middle ones out and welded it back together......

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      09-13-2012, 07:49 PM   #138
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someone should diagram that picture pointing out some of the parts because that shit looks like a flux capacitor!
It's a Mr. Fusion:

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      09-13-2012, 08:00 PM   #139
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Gone are the days of a sexy engine bay..
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      09-13-2012, 08:13 PM   #140
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Gone are the days of a sexy engine bay..
Or race engineered designs for quick paddock changes.....

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      09-13-2012, 08:19 PM   #141
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is that test car a right hand drive?
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      09-13-2012, 08:19 PM   #142
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no more V8.........................
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      09-13-2012, 08:35 PM   #143
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Lovely. Thanks for the pics / details!

Sadness for the lack of an NA V8, but oh well. And wow, yes, cramped.

Interested to see what the production engine bay looks like (if it'll be the same, or cleaned up and organized a bit).
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      09-13-2012, 08:46 PM   #144
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looks cramped lol
I guess if you're a BMW tech on the shit list,they'll assign you to work on the F80/82 engine.
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      09-13-2012, 08:49 PM   #145
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has the M3 ever done us wrong? Ever? Its going to be amazing.
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      09-13-2012, 08:51 PM   #146
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Based on that ugly ass engine compartment???

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Yeah, 'cause looking at a massive airbox and intake plenum is sooooo sexy.

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      09-13-2012, 09:07 PM   #147
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If this resembles the final look, they need to go back and redesign. I don't like the fart can sound nor the backfire during shifts. I'll stay with my V8.
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      09-13-2012, 09:08 PM   #148
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I love all this anti-M blah, blah, blah.

I wish I had been around these boards when the E9X M3 came out. I can just imagine the comments.

"Oh no, a V8?!? Blasphemy!!"

"No I6, I'm not going to buy it"

"What happened to the I6 smoothness? This V8 is going to be rough as hell!".

LOL.
history always repeat itself with every new generation of M cars. LOL
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It could be done through the use of lighter yet stronger materials just like we can do a steel roof or CFRP roof. Same concept. That's actually how the weight of the S65 was reduced over the S54.




Being that "50-50" weight distribution (or as close to it as possible) has been one of the constants with BMW over time, i doubt they'll go Audi or Porsche on us and change that up. As far as the solid feel, I think that has more to do with the seals used and the tightness of the seams than just heavy materials being used to make up for that. Craftsmanship is where that makes a difference.




This comment made me laugh. Have you not seen M54->S54... minus the individual throttle bodies they are very similar. Same goes for the E36 with the S50 and M50 which are almost the same as well... The only car to break that mold has been the E9x with its unique engine.
S54 is a cast iron block. M54 was aluminium. The engines are completely different other than cylinder configuration.
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has the M3 ever done us wrong? Ever? Its going to be amazing.
Yes. S52.

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Only 450 horsepower? It better be able to hit 550-600 with a tune. The m5 engine can hit 725 with minor bolt ons. My current e92 wis already faster than this thing if it only has 450 with minor weight savings. This could be a real disappointment. No V8 and only 30 more horsepower = downgrade in my mind not upgrade.
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So if it's anything like the N54, getting it to make 600+ RWHP shouldn't be too hard. Now that I could live with...
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Also, I am so glad it is a inline-6 because that is BMW tradition.


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      09-13-2012, 10:06 PM   #154
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I love all this anti-M blah, blah, blah.

I wish I had been around these boards when the E9X M3 came out. I can just imagine the comments.

"Oh no, a V8?!? Blasphemy!!"

"No I6, I'm not going to buy it"

"What happened to the I6 smoothness? This V8 is going to be rough as hell!".

LOL.
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People's reaction to changes can be scary sometimes .. and in a very near future we shall see comments such as:

"it's growing on me"

"actually it's not bad"

"i'm liking it day by day"



Relax; i bet this f30 M is going to be one hell of a car
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