More 2014 BMW M3 F80 Videos: 3 Minutes Blasting On and Around Nurburgring - Page 3

VCMpower · 09-13-2012, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by clar

The S54 was never based on the M54. The S54 was improved from the S52, which was the engine used by the E36 M3 in Europe. The S52/S54 engine were bespoke M engines with no relation to the M series engines used on series cars from what i know.

VCMpower · 09-13-2012, 12:40 PM

Amen!!!!

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Originally Posted by Uli_HH

Sorry! But NO ... you must define the word "based on" correctly !!!

All M3 engine until now which were based on AG engines only share the basic engine block layout with their AG counterparts ... really all other parts were bespoken part only developed for the S50s and the S54 (the special US M engines are an other story!).

BUT if BMW today speaks in the case of the F8x about an "heavily" modified N55 as basis and you also know that only cost reduction were the reason to choose this engine alternative ... it seem clear that "this engine" must be the cheapest possible way to reach the needed ~450hp ... so "heavily modified" meens in my opinion:
- stronger engine block/crankcase by puting struts on the outside
- better/greater Turbos-system by using the TriTurbo of the N57S
- adding the newest VANOS availiable
- intelligent software
... plus some minor parts ... I think that would be all and I don´t define this as "heavily modified", its only an AG N55 with some better (newer) parts. If the M-GmbH would modify the N55 more heavily the cost would rise sharply and thats against all whats the BMW AG sought to achieve the BMW AG with its engine decision.

Greets Uli_HH

Dave07997S · 09-13-2012, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by bimmerjph

My observations:

In the last video the exhaust sounded like a swarm of honey bees. Now it sounds like a swarm of bumble bees, so I guess that is improvement.

I am fairly confident body roll wont be a complaint, or really handling in general.

Is it just me or did it sound like it is broken at the end?

Yea I heard this as well...like something broke and was rattling or scraping. Also, the S65 still sounds light years ahead of this car.

Dave

Carl L · 09-13-2012, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by VCMpower

Amen!!!!

I think, and hope, there will be far more extensive changes than this. We should find out for sure in the next few months....

VCMpower · 09-13-2012, 01:26 PM

Agreed. This is the downside to letting some of the R&D slip to the public so early. All "what if's" and "could have's" right now.

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Originally Posted by Carl Lassiter

I think, and hope, there will be far more extensive changes than this. We should find out for sure in the next few months....

miamiflgator · 09-13-2012, 01:47 PM

It will be a great car for sure and better than the C AMG, but that inline 6 is the only reason why I picked up mine off the lot this year.
I also hope that exhaust sounds much better than it does in that video...
The first and the last M3 with a V8 is gone...

cged14 · 09-13-2012, 03:59 PM

i just want to drive it...as much as i love hearing the n/a v10 and v8's, the experience of driving is what puts me in a good mood, no matter what it sounds like.

c4pet0wn · 09-13-2012, 04:03 PM

I really hope this is not the final exhaust note ...... It sounds like my flatulent grandfather after a hearty bowl of chilli. Lets hope they slapped on straight pipes for these test runs and the retail version will have more of a low end growl rather than these baffs and lets hope the top end of the engine is smooth yet grunty without being obnoxious unless you really mash the pedal and give her the beans, THEN lets hear that engine go buck wild. Perhaps placing it in M mode should control the actual exhaust note via a valve of sorts and not turn on super secret sounds in the cabin ... Yeah I know I want the world blah blah blah

tyler9595 · 09-13-2012, 06:26 PM

It's starting to get real for me. I'm excited because the F80 is probably going to be an upgrade to the E90 in the same way the new M5 compares to the E60. The F80 will be a beast.

I have a 2010 e90 335 with the Dinan S2 and BMW Performance Exhaust. So, I'm good with the I6 turbo. It looks like the F80 M3 is going to be even better!

Marioalex24 · 09-13-2012, 08:36 PM

That turbo sounded pretty loud. Did I see a mini gp there at the end of the video?

Wasabi4 · 09-13-2012, 11:33 PM

signed up to get info because I wanted to buy an E92. But seeing how planted the F80 is in the videos is making me question my original intention.

i just hope there is no exhaust note piped in from the speakers.

AhsanU · 09-14-2012, 03:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Wasabi4

signed up to get info because I wanted to buy an E92. But seeing how planted the F80 is in the videos is making me question my original intention.

i just hope there is no exhaust note piped in from the speakers.

There's an option to disable it in the M5, I see no reason why BMW wouldn't offer that option for the M3 too if they do even decide to do that.

Alext · 09-14-2012, 05:01 AM

I am sure that it will be a fantastic performance car. But I also think the exhaust note lacks soul. It would have been good if they kept the V8 like Benz:

Just amazing sound...

Peahi · 09-14-2012, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Alext

I am sure that it will be a fantastic performance car. But I also think the exhaust note lacks soul. It would have been good if they kept the V8 like Benz:

Just amazing sound...

Mean sounding V8!

Carl L · 09-14-2012, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by AhsanU

There's an option to disable it in the M5, I see no reason why BMW wouldn't offer that option for the M3 too if they do even decide to do that.

Really? I have heard there is no such option, but I could be mistaken.

Jason · 09-14-2012, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by AhsanU

There's an option to disable it in the M5, I see no reason why BMW wouldn't offer that option for the M3 too if they do even decide to do that.

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Originally Posted by Carl Lassiter

Really? I have heard there is no such option, but I could be mistaken.

No, there is no option to disable 'active sound' in the M5.

The only time when anyone has heard the M5 without it is when one of our M5POST members pulled the audio fuse in his F10 M5 to test how much difference the active sound technology makes.

Here is his writeup and video: http://f10.m5post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=680384

Slow_335i · 09-14-2012, 04:23 PM

WOW already has wastegate rattles!

lol

GG22 · 09-15-2012, 03:15 PM

am I the only who is outrageously disappointed that bmw took the easy way out and used a v6?

Carl L · 09-16-2012, 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by GG22

am I the only who is outrageously disappointed that bmw took the easy way out and used a v6?

It's an inline 6. But yeah, i prefer na

el_macc · 09-17-2012, 08:53 AM

idk but i might be mistaking here so dont go crazy on me, but the new f80 M3 seems like the front and rear fender flares do not stick/poke out wider like they used to on the old M3s. Maybe its the camo and i cant tell but the body looks like a regular f30 with the same size fenders and rear quarter panel???? Thats just my observation. i could b wrong. Thanx 4 the help family!!!

Jason · 09-17-2012, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by el_macc

idk but i might be mistaking here so dont go crazy on me, but the new f80 M3 seems like the front and rear fender flares do not stick/poke out wider like they used to on the old M3s. Maybe its the camo and i cant tell but the body looks like a regular f30 with the same size fenders and rear quarter panel???? Thats just my observation. i could b wrong. Thanx 4 the help family!!!

Take a look at all the spy photos of the F80 M3. The fenders flare dramatically.

All spy pics @ http://www.f30post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=602770

09-13-2012, 01:47 PM	#50
miamiflgator New Member Drives: m3 Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: fl Posts: 19 iTrader: (0)	Yes, but It will be a great car for sure and better than the C AMG, but that inline 6 is the only reason why I picked up mine off the lot this year. I also hope that exhaust sounds much better than it does in that video... The first and the last M3 with a V8 is gone...

09-13-2012, 06:26 PM	#53
tyler9595 Lieutenant Drives: 2013 135is Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 556 iTrader: (0)	It's starting to get real for me. I'm excited because the F80 is probably going to be an upgrade to the E90 in the same way the new M5 compares to the E60. The F80 will be a beast. I have a 2010 e90 335 with the Dinan S2 and BMW Performance Exhaust. So, I'm good with the I6 turbo. It looks like the F80 M3 is going to be even better! __________________ 2013 135is (N55), Carbon Black, ZPP, ZTP, DCT, HK audio, heated seats Previous - 2010 e90 335i (N54), BSM, 6AT, ZSP, ZPP, ZCW, Hi-Fi, Nav, BMW PPK & PE, Dinan S2 Previous - 2007 e90 335i (N54), BSM, 6AT, ZSP, ZPP, ZCW, Hi-Fi

09-13-2012, 08:36 PM	#54
Marioalex24 First Lieutenant Drives: E46 M3 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: So Cal Posts: 323 iTrader: (0)	That turbo sounded pretty loud. Did I see a mini gp there at the end of the video? __________________ 1. 2008 Mini Cooper S (sold) 2. 2011 E92 M3 (sold) 3. 2002 E46 M3 (sold) 4. 2002 E46 325i (gave it to mom) 5. 2010 E92 M3 (own)

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09-13-2012, 03:59 PM	#51
cged14 Enlisted Member Drives: slow Join Date: May 2012 Location: USA Posts: 41 iTrader: (0)	i just want to drive it...as much as i love hearing the n/a v10 and v8's, the experience of driving is what puts me in a good mood, no matter what it sounds like.

09-13-2012, 04:03 PM	#52
c4pet0wn DJ CURTIZ - Bringin' that fresh Electro House 2ya! Drives: 2011 M3 Interlagos Blue Coupe Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Orange County Posts: 77 iTrader: (0)	I really hope this is not the final exhaust note ...... It sounds like my flatulent grandfather after a hearty bowl of chilli. Lets hope they slapped on straight pipes for these test runs and the retail version will have more of a low end growl rather than these baffs and lets hope the top end of the engine is smooth yet grunty without being obnoxious unless you really mash the pedal and give her the beans, THEN lets hear that engine go buck wild. Perhaps placing it in M mode should control the actual exhaust note via a valve of sorts and not turn on super secret sounds in the cabin ... Yeah I know I want the world blah blah blah

09-13-2012, 11:33 PM	#55
Wasabi4 New Member Drives: '13 E92 M3 Coupe Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: SoCal Posts: 17 iTrader: (0)	signed up to get info because I wanted to buy an E92. But seeing how planted the F80 is in the videos is making me question my original intention. i just hope there is no exhaust note piped in from the speakers.

09-14-2012, 05:01 AM	#57
Alext Lieutenant Colonel Drives: B M W Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Everest Posts: 1,898 iTrader: (2)	I am sure that it will be a fantastic performance car. But I also think the exhaust note lacks soul. It would have been good if they kept the V8 like Benz: Just amazing sound...

09-15-2012, 03:15 PM	#62
GG22 Enlisted Member Drives: 2011 M3, 2011 458, 012 Turbo S Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: US Posts: 39 iTrader: (0)	am I the only who is outrageously disappointed that bmw took the easy way out and used a v6?

09-17-2012, 08:53 AM	#64
el_macc Private First Class Drives: F30 335i Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: NYC Posts: 114 iTrader: (0)	idk but i might be mistaking here so dont go crazy on me, but the new f80 M3 seems like the front and rear fender flares do not stick/poke out wider like they used to on the old M3s. Maybe its the camo and i cant tell but the body looks like a regular f30 with the same size fenders and rear quarter panel???? Thats just my observation. i could b wrong. Thanx 4 the help family!!!