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      10-25-2012, 10:49 PM   #23
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can some1 explain to me how GM's allowed to slap the new small block v8 LS1 on its new corvette, but BMW is not?
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It has something to do with not wanting to step over the M5's toes

M3 can't be more power than M5...

we surely dont want that to happen, or at least they dont want it to happen.

And plus 6 cyl to claim fuel economy... Corvette doesn't care about fuel eco... and it would be blasphemy for the Corvette to get anything less than the V8.
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      10-25-2012, 10:55 PM   #24
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can some1 explain to me how GM's allowed to slap the new small block v8 LS1 on its new corvette, but BMW is not?
Number one on BMW's list now is "efficient dynamics". This is what they are selling. Reason why we are getting a turbo 6-cylinder.

The funniest thing about them advertising "efficient dynamics" is the commercial with the GTS, M5, and 1M. They try to use these cars to advertise "efficient dynamics".

But the M3 GTS is a gas eating machine, the new M5 has a gas guzzler tax, and the 1M can't even be purchased anymore. Stupid commercial.
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squeaky brakes >> heavy ceramic...

There will be a manual version
squeaky brakes -> testing brake pads? Pagid pads make a lot of noise for example.

And I forgot the previous pics of the manual
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      10-25-2012, 11:04 PM   #26
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I am looking forward to lining up beside a F8x when they show up.
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      10-26-2012, 12:24 AM   #28
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how can anyone comment on the sound? when we know damn well how a car sounds in person is different from video...

i just hope that crazy paint job is an individual option
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      10-26-2012, 01:57 AM   #29
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It sounds okay, could be worse.

With that said - it looks fast. I think that's what matters most - no? Either way, it's coming along nicely. Surely the end product will sound better/different.

And as far as the redline goes - no way it can be more than 7k or so (based on this latest video). Maybe 7.2-7.3k if we're lucky.
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Based on the sound, what's the redline? Sounds like a normal rpm range 6.5k-7k, not a high rpm motor like 8k plus...
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no more than 7k for sure, atleast from what i heard in this video.. you never know
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It sure does not sound high revving, like past models.
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And as far as the redline goes - no way it can be more than 7k or so (based on this latest video). Maybe 7.2-7.3k if we're lucky.
There's no way to tell redline based on spyvideos. So I wouldn't be too quick to judge the new engine.


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      10-26-2012, 03:28 AM   #31
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Sounds pretty good....
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So far, it has more agility.
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So far, it has more agility.
How do you figure?

In one of the videos it runs with an E92 at the same pace, and elsewhere to me it seemed like a very well composed chassis masking a pretty hefty weight.

Is there any more info on the M2?
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So far, it has more agility.
How do you figure?

In one of the videos it runs with an E92 at the same pace, and elsewhere to me it seemed like a very well composed chassis masking a pretty hefty weight.

Is there any more info on the M2?
Hefty weight?

By all accounts and info posted here so far the f80 m3 will be lighter than the current M3.
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Hefty weight?

By all accounts and info posted here so far the f80 m3 will be lighter than the current M3.
If you believe that I could introduce you to the Easter bunny...

Just like the F30 was declared to be lighter than the E90, yeah right. Will it matter one bit if it's 50 lbs lighter?
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      10-26-2012, 09:06 AM   #36
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I am sure it will be very fast but still that sound
BMW you cannot give us a V8 then take it away in the next model.
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Hefty weight?

By all accounts and info posted here so far the f80 m3 will be lighter than the current M3.
If you believe that I could introduce you to the Easter bunny...

Just like the F30 was declared to be lighter than the E90, yeah right. Will it matter one bit if it's 50 lbs lighter?
If BMW engineers are targeting E46 M3 weight and end up just 50 pounds lighter they need to find another profession.

I doubt that they will meet that goal exactly but just the fact that BMW has stated something like this will likely mean significant weight loss, not just a few pounds.

What's with all the negative nancys around here?
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      10-26-2012, 09:22 AM   #38
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I think I am going to for sure buy the E92 M3. I don't like the sound of this car one bit. I would really like to see what the exact specs are of this car and can't wait for the current M to face off with this M
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Honda Civic sound... But Ceramic brakes for sure.
Is that what the squeaking sound (under heavy braking) was? I was wondering why the brakes were squeaking so much... I hate that sound.
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doesn't sound bad. i still just wish they kept the v8...
You could always swap.
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Hefty weight?

By all accounts and info posted here so far the f80 m3 will be lighter than the current M3.
If you believe that I could introduce you to the Easter bunny...

Just like the F30 was declared to be lighter than the E90, yeah right. Will it matter one bit if it's 50 lbs lighter?
If BMW engineers are targeting E46 M3 weight and end up just 50 pounds lighter they need to find another profession.

I doubt that they will meet that goal exactly but just the fact that BMW has stated something like this will likely mean significant weight loss, not just a few pounds.

What's with all the negative nancys around here?
Couldn't agree more.
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can some1 explain to me how GM's allowed to slap the new small block v8 LS1 on its new corvette, but BMW is not?
The definition of Corvette is pretty much V8. The M3 isn't a V8 car... It just happened to have one for a generation.
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Is that what the squeaking sound (under heavy braking) was? I was wondering why the brakes were squeaking so much... I hate that sound.
Ya that's the sound of ceramic brakes I love it.
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