i6 turbo M3 or next gen V8 C63? - Page 2

benn. · 10-25-2012, 04:17 AM

i love everything about the next "m4" except for the
1) renaming to "4 series" (feels like it's ruining a tradition.. but the world is always moving forward so whatever)
2) basically has a reworked 335i engine.. why not buy a 335i and mod the engine.. i love the NA v8 too much.. (feels like i'm paying for a 335i with a body kit even though they switched to a twin scroll)
3) if i wanted a shitty sounding forced induction twin turbo 6 cylinder engine car i'd buy a gtr lol

however.. on the plus side.. because it's a reworked 335i engine i'm sure engine performance mods will be plentiful at model release

Chrisfast · 10-26-2012, 09:36 AM

I just hope the new M3/M4 is more involving. I think the problem I had with my 2011 was that it was uninvolving and uninspiring. I thought the car was great, but it was almost too easy to drive on the track. And as wonderufl as DCT is (and believe me, it is incredible), it was so boring I thought I was driving my wife's 335. Those are totally personal opinions though. Here are the facts. Mine was way too heavy. In the corners the M suspension does a great job of trying to hide it, but you just can't cheat the laws of phsyics. The torque was non existant, but I knew that going into it.
What I'm hoping for with the next one is that BMW does what they say they are planning and aim for the weight of the E46 M3. Hell, better yet, go after the E36. The inline 6 doesn't bother me in the least, that's BMW's heritage. Forced induction isn't one of my favorite things, but it's the way of the future apparently so I'll just live with it. And I'm really hoping BMW is watching Porsche and brings us a 7-speed manual so we don't lose a gear if we pick the manual over DCT. Oh, one more thing, please don't call the car an M4 BMW. That is just an insult to those of use who have owned M3's over the years. Anyway, my .02.

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10-25-2012, 04:17 AM	#23
benn. Private First Class Drives: 2010 bmw m3, 2009 merc c350 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Seattle WA / Mailbu CA Posts: 125 iTrader: (0)	i love everything about the next "m4" except for the 1) renaming to "4 series" (feels like it's ruining a tradition.. but the world is always moving forward so whatever) 2) basically has a reworked 335i engine.. why not buy a 335i and mod the engine.. i love the NA v8 too much.. (feels like i'm paying for a 335i with a body kit even though they switched to a twin scroll) 3) if i wanted a shitty sounding forced induction twin turbo 6 cylinder engine car i'd buy a gtr lol however.. on the plus side.. because it's a reworked 335i engine i'm sure engine performance mods will be plentiful at model release

10-26-2012, 09:36 AM	#24
Chrisfast Private First Class Drives: Moped Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Colorado Posts: 133 iTrader: (6)	I just hope the new M3/M4 is more involving. I think the problem I had with my 2011 was that it was uninvolving and uninspiring. I thought the car was great, but it was almost too easy to drive on the track. And as wonderufl as DCT is (and believe me, it is incredible), it was so boring I thought I was driving my wife's 335. Those are totally personal opinions though. Here are the facts. Mine was way too heavy. In the corners the M suspension does a great job of trying to hide it, but you just can't cheat the laws of phsyics. The torque was non existant, but I knew that going into it. What I'm hoping for with the next one is that BMW does what they say they are planning and aim for the weight of the E46 M3. Hell, better yet, go after the E36. The inline 6 doesn't bother me in the least, that's BMW's heritage. Forced induction isn't one of my favorite things, but it's the way of the future apparently so I'll just live with it. And I'm really hoping BMW is watching Porsche and brings us a 7-speed manual so we don't lose a gear if we pick the manual over DCT. Oh, one more thing, please don't call the car an M4 BMW. That is just an insult to those of use who have owned M3's over the years. Anyway, my .02.