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      11-10-2012, 09:11 PM   #111
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Not feeling this render. The kidney grilles feel a bit vertically narrow (e.g. squashed) looking to me. Prefer the following:

Now this is hot.
1st time I've seen this one. Best render imo shame most likely not gonna b e close to this
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      11-10-2012, 11:10 PM   #112
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Compare F30/F80 to E90 yes, Improve.

Compare to F32/E82 to E92 nope, I think current E92 look far better in this RENDER.

People are exciting about F30 new headlight but most of Line! still similar to E90.

To be fit for Series 4 (The NEW series), they need to do more. If they still use F30 headlight for Series 4 F32 or E82 then this is too lazy for BMW, it is like E46 coupe and sedan (minor different) and should call this 3 Coupe.
Even the E92 are more suitable for calling Series 4 since E90 and E92 doesn't share too much design (it stand apart, headlights are different shape at all and Taillight also base from different design).


Yes, This is how it should be S3 and S4

And see F30 to F32 RENDER!! if it is true as render then BMW is now LAZY.

Same light just cut the door out, Ehhh?!
Nice critique, but I feel its an over reach. If you read my comment it simply speculates on the overall shape of the form based on a rendering.
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      11-11-2012, 03:25 AM   #113
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Yeah, sorry only few first line was reply to you but after that i just wrote out my emotion on RENDER. but i didn't separate comment up.
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      11-11-2012, 05:30 AM   #114
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Sorry but by far this is one of the worst!
Our rendering artist can't just "make out" what it looks like by just taking off the camo.BMW camo's have gone very clever these days in doing its job..disguising!There's much more than just swirly stickers, there's also fake body panels underneath that hides the real curves really well.
Anyway, a nice try.Thanks! You keep our dreams alive and keep dreaming...
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      11-11-2012, 06:52 AM   #115
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Why does the car look so bloody long? I'm interested in the length, seriously. These renders look like very slightly smaller 6 series BMW's.
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      11-11-2012, 11:49 AM   #116
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Sorry but by far this is one of the worst!
Our rendering artist can't just "make out" what it looks like by just taking off the camo.BMW camo's have gone very clever these days in doing its job..disguising!There's much more than just swirly stickers, there's also fake body panels underneath that hides the real curves really well.
Anyway, a nice try.Thanks! You keep our dreams alive and keep dreaming...
Yes, it's a render, but you'll be surprised to see how close the overall shape is to the real F32 4 Series coupe. It's spot on in that respect. The camouflage didn't add as much deception on the prototype as you think.

Check back in the next couple of days.
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      11-11-2012, 10:54 PM   #117
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Don't do it BMW!!! Don't get rid of the M3 name!!!

Oh my lord please no. They are changing the m3 lagacy and naming it m4? Not only are they making a mistake by changing the name, they are following Audi now with the s"4". I hope this is untrue. I don't know if I'll ever feel the same about them...
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      11-13-2012, 12:26 PM   #118
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Front fender styling (not yet known what the M4 fender will feature) aside, anyone still think the render was that far off?

Bottom two photos are from our recently posted pics of the 4 Series production model.


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      11-13-2012, 01:06 PM   #119
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ughh, for real. As RENDER!! BMW is too LAZY these day, Series 3, Series 4, Series 5 almost got same design. Esp. the taillight!!
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      11-13-2012, 01:32 PM   #120
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      11-14-2012, 03:58 PM   #122
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From the side, it doesn't look very different from the E92. And if it has the same tail lights as the 3 series then I'll be pretty disappointed.

Nice info though Jason as usual!
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      11-16-2012, 03:11 PM   #123
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As I ponder the new M3 and M4 the disappointing thing for me is that if interested in the M4 (specifically a 2 door coupe) I will very likely be paying more for a car that will cost less and be nearly identical otherwise.

More "clever" BMW Marketing here with the M4. The car may offer some exterior colors, interior trim or other options the M3 won't have. Other than that and the door count of course the cars will be identical. The extra doors in the M3 will probably mean it will actually cost more to manufacture than the M4. Last but not least I also expect a few dozen lines of code in the ECU to be different in the M4 (more boost) which will provide more power (of course at very near to $0 of cost for BMW). Perhaps the M3 will come in with just a bit more power than the E92 (as rumored here on the forum) than the outgoing M3, say 430-ish whereas the M4 will be bumped up in the 450-ish range.

Thus those who want a coupe are going to have to pay quite a bit more (I'd guess $7k minimally), will get a less expensive car to produce with a bit more power.

I find this scenario/prospect very displeasing. Am I right here, totally off base??
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      11-16-2012, 11:35 PM   #124
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As I ponder the new M3 and M4 the disappointing thing for me is that if interested in the M4 (specifically a 2 door coupe) I will very likely be paying more for a car that will cost less and be nearly identical otherwise.

More "clever" BMW Marketing here with the M4. The car may offer some exterior colors, interior trim or other options the M3 won't have. Other than that and the door count of course the cars will be identical. The extra doors in the M3 will probably mean it will actually cost more to manufacture than the M4. Last but not least I also expect a few dozen lines of code in the ECU to be different in the M4 (more boost) which will provide more power (of course at very near to $0 of cost for BMW). Perhaps the M3 will come in with just a bit more power than the E92 (as rumored here on the forum) than the outgoing M3, say 430-ish whereas the M4 will be bumped up in the 450-ish range.

Thus those who want a coupe are going to have to pay quite a bit more (I'd guess $7k minimally), will get a less expensive car to produce with a bit more power.

I find this scenario/prospect very displeasing. Am I right here, totally off base??
Nope, great post bud. I hope you're right about the 2-door M having a slight power tweak over the sedan, will soften the price increase blow for the likes of me who keep their engines stock.
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      11-17-2012, 11:22 AM   #125
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Nope, great post bud. I hope you're right about the 2-door M having a slight power tweak over the sedan, will soften the price increase blow for the likes of me who keep their engines stock.

I hope he isn't right. I don't see any reason why "my M3" sedan should be underpowered compared to "your M3" 2-door coupe model (which is then called M4).

Does the M6 have a power tweak over the M5 ? No.
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      11-17-2012, 02:30 PM   #126
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Does the M6 have a power tweak over the M5 ? No.
Even though higher model numbers most often have more power than the lower model numbers this is a solid counterpoint that I know but did not have in the forefront of my mind when thinking about possible M3/M4 scenarios.

The rumors of the new M3 having close/similar power to the outgoing model along with the observation that BMW WILL be charging substantially more for the M4 over the M3 just has me thinking. For reference the M6 is about $16k more than the M5 (and again almost for sure costs less to manufacture)
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      11-27-2012, 12:32 AM   #127
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Looks hot, but I'm more into the E92 look. The front end does look quite similar to the F30. Not to mention I had mistaken this for the M6 coupe.
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