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      12-09-2012, 12:22 PM   #89
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I say remove the badge and keep'em guessing
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      12-09-2012, 12:32 PM   #90
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Of course. Now wait for the sticker shock.
Indeed, there will now be a premium pricing for M4 vs M3. Audi-esque.

Think I will de-camp to P-cars.
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      12-09-2012, 12:35 PM   #91
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What's the first thing people do when they are pissed at BMW? They go get a Porsche.
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      12-09-2012, 12:40 PM   #92
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BMW must be secretly partial to sedan drivers, and think that they will better represent the M3 tradition moving forward. Obviously they're right.
I understand the point but I beg to differ: the 1st M3 was 2-doors. So in my book it's like Porsche making the 911 a Panamera. Which clearly they did not do. Spo the raison d'être of the Panamera was to avoid diluting the 911's heritage.

Of course there will be a heap of 'punters' who won't care a damn for the nomenclature. But in 1 gen the M3 will go to M4 and turbo. I embrace change but I believe this move to be wrong-headed. Keep the badge, we understand the need to go turbo to meet power and fuel economy requirements.

But I'm sure the M4 will sell well whatever I or other traditionalists think
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      12-09-2012, 12:58 PM   #93
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The advent of the Avant only Audi RS 4 has got the water coolers in the FIZ buzzing and although nothing has appeared officially , there is much discussion regarding rumours about a possible M3 Touring finally becoming a reality since each generation has got close and closer yet to the green light only to evaporate at the end. Both Audi and Mercedes-Benz offer successful high performance wagons in that segment but BMW do not.
An M3 touring would be amazing. I hope BMW finally goes through with it.
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      12-09-2012, 01:08 PM   #94
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Indeed, there will now be a premium pricing for M4 vs M3. Audi-esque.

Think I will de-camp to P-cars.
There is already coupe vs sedan premiums... nothing new
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      12-09-2012, 01:58 PM   #95
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Exactly right.
You couldn't be any more wrong sir. People appreciate a tradition, and there is a legacy behind the M3. I mean adding all these other numbers is overkill. I my self will debadge it for the reason of tradition. I mean if you utter the word M3 people are like ahh yes the M3, and when you say M4 people will say WTF! is that???
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      12-09-2012, 01:59 PM   #96
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      12-09-2012, 03:27 PM   #97
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I understand the point but I beg to differ: the 1st M3 was 2-doors. So in my book it's like Porsche making the 911 a Panamera. Which clearly they did not do. Spo the raison d'être of the Panamera was to avoid diluting the 911's heritage.

Of course there will be a heap of 'punters' who won't care a damn for the nomenclature. But in 1 gen the M3 will go to M4 and turbo. I embrace change but I believe this move to be wrong-headed. Keep the badge, we understand the need to go turbo to meet power and fuel economy requirements.

But I'm sure the M4 will sell well whatever I or other traditionalists think

I'm with you, that's exactly what I think
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      12-09-2012, 07:51 PM   #98
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This is madness! The M4 is the M3 and anyone who questions that doesn't matter! Do you buy it for the badge, or for what it is! Who cares, cos soon the M3 watchers will become the M4 watchers. LOL M3Cutters will love this new address! lol or revere it as they need to register new dom name
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      12-09-2012, 08:11 PM   #99
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Wonder how many people will rebadge it to M3?
Would be my first mod if I were to buy one.
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      12-09-2012, 09:36 PM   #100
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can't wait for the M4 =)
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      12-09-2012, 10:30 PM   #101
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What's the first thing people do when they are pissed at BMW? They go get a Porsche.
+1

I thought I'd never consider a squashed beetle but the 991 generation is looking damn good in every respect and I might have to overlook the F82 M4 and start saving up for a 991 GT3. The only thing that has ever concerned me is the engine and if they could somehow engineer the upcoming S55 to be 99.99% as good as their legendary normally aspirated forebearers, I'll be sold. Time will only tell when the F80 M3 comes in.
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      12-10-2012, 01:07 AM   #102
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What's the first thing people do when they are pissed at BMW? They go get a Porsche.
the second thing they do is realize that the porsche is not better than the BMW..
Really? N wat is your source of this information or fact?
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      12-10-2012, 04:52 AM   #103
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In other news, Chevrolet, in celebration of their famous coupe's 7th generation, will be renaming it the Corbette.
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      12-10-2012, 10:33 AM   #104
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Call it a Pinto, I don't care. When the M version comes out, I'm getting one.
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      12-10-2012, 10:42 AM   #105
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People are always opposed to change. As long as it performs like a M car is supposed, then I'm happy. If someone doesn't know what an M4 is when you say it, then that person is not an enthusiast anyway. Know your history.
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      12-10-2012, 01:19 PM   #106
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Dumb badge fans. I can't even imagine what would happen if Porsche called it icon "912"? Owners would debadge and put 911 decales on the whole car?
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      12-10-2012, 02:55 PM   #107
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meh, mine will be debadged anyways
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      12-10-2012, 04:21 PM   #108
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That would be the first thing I would do.
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I don't care what people say... I think it is so gay for them to rename the M3. There was SO much tradition and history behind that name! It is a big time brand name and an icon for BMW cars now and I feel like its being thrown away.
Those of you thinking the name is so important and are going to rebadge your cars are what give the term "badge snob" its meaning. Yes, there is heritage, but really only the enthusiasts will know about that. The general public could probably care less about the heritage, or on which specific model of BMW you drive that you desperately want to display with a badge.


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Rebadging the M4 to M3 after you buy one makes no sense. If you really care about the name that much then you're a BMW fan for the wrong reason. Personally, I'm a fan because of the cars, not the name.
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But I agree with you, if I bought a M4, I wouldn't even bother trying to rebadge it to a M3 because I don't think the average citizen really notices or cares and for the enthusiasts, we know the whole deal so there really is no point unless the owner really, really cares for it.
My thoughts exactly. It wouldn't surprise me if the car ends up only badged with an "///M" emblem on it like that of the 1M Coupe.


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I'm kinda glad, so now my e92 m3 will be the last m3 ever made. Makes it more rare or exclusive? You can say you own the latest m3
No, there will still be the M3 sedan.
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      12-10-2012, 04:26 PM   #109
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Dumb badge fans. I can't even imagine what would happen if Porsche called it icon "912"? Owners would debadge and put 911 decales on the whole car?
Well, there was a 912 previously which was a 4 cylinder version of the 911. I wonder what people thought of that back in the day.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porsche_912
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I think the underlying theme here is that it's just a curious matter. Not in the sense of a conspiracy theory but just an "oh really? That's...interesting..." type way. The car is going to be great, I'm sure, but this definitely raises some eyebrows. I thought the special name for their special coupe was going to be the same forever and I might even assume that most folks didn't have a problem with that. In any event, it's their company and they get to define their direction. They seem to have a knack for producing special cars so I don't worry in that regard.
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