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      01-30-2013, 01:23 PM   #1
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Exclamation 415hp S55 Powered F80 M3 / F82 M4 Revealed via BMW VIN?!

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A resourceful F30POST member of ours went BMW VIN diving and may have uncovered many details for the upcoming BMW M3 Sedan (F80) and M4 Coupe (F82)!

While obviously no production F80 M3 or F82 M4 have rolled off the line yet, manufacturers like BMW register VINs for their pre-production test cars, so finding the details behind such VINs can reveal much about the upcoming production models (although keep in mind that everything is subject to change by the time the model hits production).

So, what does the BMW M4 coupe's VIN reveal?

The highlight is the 310kW (415 hp) S55 3.0L inline 6 engine listed [photos]. Consistent with the information we've been posting, this would have the next M3 and M4 featuring similar horsepower figures to the current M3 (414 hp) from the 3.0L inline 6 multi-turbo S55 engine. But, we've also been previously told by a trusty source familiar with F80/F82 development that the cars will boast approximately 100 lb-ft more torque (in range of 395 lb-ft) (source).

The same source also told us that engineers were targeting E46 M3 weight. The E46 M3's curb weight is 3,415 lb, while the current E90 M3 and E92 M3 weigh 3,726 and 3,704 pounds, respectively. This would represent an approximate 300 pound weight reduction; great news for BMW enthusiasts who bemoan the increasing weight of cars in general. The caveat to keep in mind however, is that curb weight is calculated based on the total weight of a vehicle with standard equipment, and with the ever growing list of standard equipment and technology in late model cars, don't be surprised or disappointed if you don't see exactly 300 pounds shaved. What's important is that the E46 M3 weight is being used as a target, which in any scenario, should result in significant weight reduction for the new M3 and M4.

The rest of the VIN information reveals many of the features and options to be available for the F80 M3 and F82 M4. See the full VIN info below.

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Here are the previous photos we posted of the S55 engine:






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      01-30-2013, 02:18 PM   #2
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Good work! Hopefully we can see some camo removed soon
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I have heard that the power level will be more around ~ 430 PS, although ///M is trying hard to reach a PS target or 450 PS. I also heard the engine will be based on a N55, called S55 but it will have two turbos and a water to air intercooler (as seen in previous postings here).
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So assuming a weight to power ratio of 7.7-7.8x (similar/slightly less than M5-M6), would imply a weight of 3,250-3,300 lbs. That's pretty darn light!
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Wonder what the weight will be....
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Im disappointed in the power....AMG here I come
Was wondering when the first e90/e92 M3 owner would chime in with disappointment and start yelling AMG this, Porsche that.

That extra 100 pounds of torque will leave your car behind. Have fun in your AMG
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why? a few mods and it will be a monster.
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Im disappointed in the power....AMG here I come
You could always tune it. I'd imagine that this motor would come with fored internals and decent turboe and so, have the headroom for at least another 100 crank HP, without meth.
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So assuming a weight to power ratio of 7.7-7.8x (similar/slightly less than M5-M6), would imply a weight of 3,250-3,300 lbs. That's pretty darn light!
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Wonder what the weight will be....
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The same source also told us that engineers were targeting E46 M3 weight. The E46 M3's curb weight is 3,415 lb, while the current E90 M3 and E92 M3 weigh 3,726 and 3,704 pounds, respectively. This would represent an approximate 300 pound weight reduction; great news for BMW enthusiasts who bemoan the increasing weight of cars in general. The caveat to keep in mind however, is that curb weight is calculated based on the total weight of a vehicle with standard equipment, and with the ever growing list of standard equipment and technology in late model cars, don't be surprised or disappointed if you don't see exactly 300 pounds shaved. What's important is that the E46 M3 weight is being used as a target, which in any scenario, should result in significant weight reduction for the new M3 and M4.
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Last weekend a group of us hit the dyno and someone brought a 1M. With full exhaust and no tune it put down 330s HP and 370 TQ on a low reading dyno, matching all 3 M3s in HP and destroying them in TQ. I wouldn't be surprised if it's the same engine in the new M3 which would be disappointing in that we wouldn't see a new engine, but the 1M engine is nothing to cry about.
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P car or MB or even Audi maybe ...give the Beemer a chance though and wait it out and see what they come up with
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As expected, this is a smart move by BMW.

Of course many will be disappointed with the rumor-expected hp output of next M3 (415 now? to 450 rumored), but it's the WEIGHT that matters more than hp...i'd rather have a lighter, less hp car than a heavy ass, big hp car.
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Man, this car has been a roller coaster ride...Every time a render comes out its "hell ya".Then when an inside source talks about the cars specs, its "meh"
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Last weekend a group of us hit the dyno and someone brought a 1M. With full exhaust and no tune it put down 330s HP and 370 TQ on a low reading dyno, matching all 3 M3s in HP and destroying them in TQ. I wouldn't be surprised if it's the same engine in the new M3 which would be disappointing in that we wouldn't see a new engine, but the 1M engine is nothing to cry about.
Huh? It says right there in the article that the M3/M4 engine is called the S55. The 1M has the N54 engine.

Definitely different and more powerful engine for the next M3 and M4 compared to the 1M.
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we all know it wont be 415hp. keep the competion guessing bmw.
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Last weekend a group of us hit the dyno and someone brought a 1M. With full exhaust and no tune it put down 330s HP and 370 TQ on a low reading dyno, matching all 3 M3s in HP and destroying them in TQ. I wouldn't be surprised if it's the same engine in the new M3 which would be disappointing in that we wouldn't see a new engine, but the 1M engine is nothing to cry about.
If its the 1M engine, I will try another brand. This comes from a lot of seat time in a 1M.
Just Sayin...
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As expected, this is a smart move by BMW.

Of course many will be disappointed with the rumor-expected hp output of next M3 (415 now? to 450 rumored), but it's the WEIGHT that matters more than hp...i'd rather have a lighter, less hp car than a heavy ass, big hp car.
I'd rather have both 450 and 300 lb lighter.... Aaand throw in 8300 rpm
Now that sounds more fun.
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Last weekend a group of us hit the dyno and someone brought a 1M. With full exhaust and no tune it put down 330s HP and 370 TQ on a low reading dyno, matching all 3 M3s in HP and destroying them in TQ. I wouldn't be surprised if it's the same engine in the new M3 which would be disappointing in that we wouldn't see a new engine, but the 1M engine is nothing to cry about.
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If its the 1M engine, I will try another brand. This comes from a lot of seat time in a 1M.
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Don't people read??

It says right there in the article that the M3/M4 engine is called the S55 and produces 415hp. The 1M has the N54 engine and 340hp.
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