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View Poll Results: CCB or no CCB?
Already bought/Ordered, with CCB. 34 21.12%
Already bought/Ordered, without CCB. 73 45.34%
Planning on getting it with CCB. 18 11.18%
Planning on getting it without CCB. 36 22.36%
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      06-25-2014, 02:24 PM   #23
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I was curious why there is so many non ccb Ms. Is CCB really an overkill for street? I would think for re-sell value it's worth it.
Warranty/maintenance issue aside; IMHO it is as much of an overkill for the street as 425 hp is
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K don't have access to warranty booklet was asking if someone could post. My CA said it was covered.

Just need documentation to confirm as this might change my order and I would remove the CCBs.

Although sounds like my order would still be delayed due to other part shortages that would affect my order (led and full leather)
I'll scan and up load it later tonight...but I'm 1000% sure that there is a disclaimer stating CCB are not covered under the maintenance plan.
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Here is picture of the disclaimer stating CCB are NOT included in the maintenance plan.
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Thanks for the picture. I will add this to the FAQs thread.
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Here is picture of the disclaimer stating CCB are NOT included in the maintenance plan.
Thanks for posting - what warranty manual is this and when was it published?

Again appreciate you pulling this information out but its counter to what was told to me by several resources - with the M5 initially they were NOT covered, and then they were (or so I've been told)

Not doubting - just want to get to the bottom and find the confirmed answer - as the whole reason my march order is delayed till October is due to the CCBs - and now if they aren't covered AT ALL by warranty - I'm prob going to remove them (and if I had known that in the first place my m4 would be on a boat right now heading to the USA!)

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Thanks for posting - what warranty manual is this and when was it published?

Again appreciate you pulling this information out but its counter to what was told to me by several resources - with the M5 initially they were NOT covered, and then they were (or so I've been told)

Not doubting - just want to get to the bottom and find the confirmed answer - as the whole reason my march order is delayed till October is due to the CCBs - and now if they aren't covered AT ALL by warranty - I'm prob going to remove them (and if I had known that in the first place my m4 would be on a boat right now heading to the USA!)

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It's from the warranty booklet that comes with the owner's manual. I believe it was published May this year.
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This is interesting news for sure.
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From the packages and options survey:

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Another update. We are up to 26 entries. There was one entry I deleted because the delivery date is in 2015.

There are more M4s than M3s, 14 to 12. Still pretty even. I added a bunch of charts on most options. There are way more CFRP roofs than sunroofs and way more regular brakes than CCBs. As people discuss how options affect resell value, CCB might command a higher price in the 2nd hand market because there are so few of them. Same for transmissions. There are a lot more M-DCT than MT. hunting for a MT + CCB car in the future will be difficult. There is exactly 1 car in our survey that has MT + CCB.

For colors and packages, AW and black are the most popular colors, SS is the least. Black interior color is leading by a large margin. Exec package's take rate is 23 to 3. Looks like BMW's packaging scheme is working for them. There are more Full leather than Extended leather than cloth, 15-10-1. Driver Assistance Package's take rate is pretty even, 15 yes to 11 no. Meanwhile, Lighting Package has high take rate, 18-8.

To the some of the "lesser" options... Power sunshade, Park Assist, Enhanced USB/Smartphone, Concierge, has very low take rate.

Be part of the survey buy submitting an entry for your delivered car. Click the link below if you have taken delivery of you new M car.

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I was curious why there is so many non ccb Ms. Is CCB really an overkill for street? I would think for re-sell value it's worth it.
Warranty/maintenance issue aside; IMHO it is as much of an overkill for the street as 425 hp is
Yeah, but would you pay 9k for an M Power Kit that gave the car a 13 HP bump? I don't think you would.
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Yeah, but would you pay 9k for an M Power Kit that gave the car a 13 HP bump? I don't think you would.
Oh hell no, I wouldn't. However, having high-temp calipers that resists deformation under extreme heat, yes I would for that. You get used to engine power, and it is never enough, but braking power... I had too many brake issues in my driving life.

If I really end up getting the ceramics, I would be paying for the calipers, not the rotors. If I am right about the calipers, they are worth somewhere between $4500 to $6000, so with the rotors and wheels, paying $10K for something that does not void warranty, I am good with it.
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I track my cars so I'd spec the CCs.
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Why compromise!?

My view is that you are buying a 65k+ top of the range super coupe and you're going to compromise on one of the key components of a performance car, its even got a carbon fibre flywheel for jeez sake! If we're going to get all 'do I really need CCB for the road' maybe ask yourself do you need a car with 425bhp and capable of 0-100mph in under 9seconds. Why not just buy a m435i?
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If you're serious about tracking, you would want steel brakes with race pads/fluid. CCBs require 19-20" wheels, which the additional tire cost would rack up quickly. The E46 M3 track guys even use 17s to lower their tire cost and increase grip. It's better to have more tire meat for tracking.

You go through tires 3-4x faster than brake pads.

Trust me, steel brakes are more than enough if you know what you're doing. Unless you hit high speed tracks like CoTA every weekend (going from 140mph to 40mph every lap), CCBs are just nice to have.

Another catch with CCBs that BMW won't tell you, they don't work well when wet. Wet track days are more common with the odd weather we're having. Just my 2 cents.
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I ordered the F82 with CCB's because I want to keep this car for as long as possible and imho increases the value of the car. I will be driving about 5000 miles/year with this car. I want to keep it also as OEM as possible. This means no aftermarket mods except for the M Performance parts and other mods that will not affect the lifetime of the car and that are easy to remove afterwards.
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My view is that you are buying a 65k+ top of the range super coupe and you're going to compromise on one of the key components of a performance car, its even got a carbon fibre flywheel for jeez sake! If we're going to get all 'do I really need CCB for the road' maybe ask yourself do you need a car with 425bhp and capable of 0-100mph in under 9seconds. Why not just buy a m435i?
It has been debated numerous times in other threads. CCBs aren't likely to offer any braking performance advantage on the street are a likely to be quite expensive for track use. There are many other reasons to acquire the CBB, but braking performance (on the street) is not one of them.

BTW, the F8X does not have a carbon flywheel
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That's my point, it's not whether you need CCB, it's that the car is as good as it can be for being driven at its peak performance and not be compromised.

Plus they look awesome

PS, appols....carbon-fiber composite driveshaft!
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That's my point, it's not whether you need CCB, it's that the car is as good as it can be for being driven at its peak performance and not be compromised.

Plus they look awesome

PS, appols....carbon-fiber composite driveshaft!
I am not sure I get your point.

While the engine power certainly isn't necessary for the street, there are plenty of opportunities where all 431 ponies CAN be used on the street.

However, regarding brakes, one will more than likely never reach the limit of the iron brakes on the street, the CCBs therefore don't offer any braking performance advantage. Hence there is no "peak performance being compromised" .

Like I said, there are plenty of other good reasons to get the CCB, improved looks, reduced brake dust, extended durability (with street use), different pedal feel, convenience of not having to swap pads for track use to state a few; and I can certainly understand why some folks choose to go with the CCB.

However, your OP sounded a bit dismissive and condescending towards those that opted out of the CCB. There are also plenty of good reasons to stick with the good old irons .
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That's my point, it's not whether you need CCB, it's that the car is as good as it can be for being driven at its peak performance and not be compromised.

Plus they look awesome

PS, appols....carbon-fiber composite driveshaft!
I am not sure I get your point.

While the engine power certainly isn't necessary for the street, there are plenty of opportunities where all 431 ponies CAN be used on the street.

However, regarding brakes, one will more than likely never reach the limit of the iron brakes on the street, the CCBs therefore don't offer any braking performance advantage. Hence there is no "peak performance being compromised" .

Like I said, there are plenty of other good reasons to get the CCB, improved looks, reduced brake dust, extended durability (with street use), different pedal feel, convenience of not having to swap pads for track use to state a few; and I can certainly understand why some folks choose to go with the CCB.

However, your OP sounded a bit dismissive and condescending towards those that opted out of the CCB. There are also plenty of good reasons to stick with the good old irons .
I get your point, absolutely no disrespect to anyone with irons. M4s rock with or without.
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