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      06-26-2014, 10:47 PM   #23
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He!! yes, please post. Jacob can kill it if it violates copyright...
Again, sorry about the quality. Ill do my best to get better ones from the office in the morning. Here is the whole thing.
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      06-26-2014, 10:50 PM   #24
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For Darwin's sake! Of course the difference is trivial and within the range of expected variation. Charles help us if this devolves into a M3 vs M4 war...
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      06-26-2014, 10:53 PM   #25
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Again, sorry about the quality. Ill do my best to get better ones from the office in the morning. Here is the whole thing.
wow, I might actually buy a magazine tomorrow.
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      06-26-2014, 10:55 PM   #26
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Thanks for posting the scans. Totally readable.
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      06-26-2014, 11:17 PM   #27
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Pretty good review, follows the company line so far, with a bit of variance from the M3 / M4 weight difference.

Thanks Damasconian for the post!
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      06-26-2014, 11:47 PM   #28
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M4 has slightly better aero (Cd = 0.76 vs. 0.78) because of smaller frontal area, so it will have the advantage as speed rises, all other things being equal.
If the drag figure includes area then it would be CdA, not Cd. But then these numbers for CdA would be wrong. Where did they come from?


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A is in square meters. They come from the main thread.

2.23 x 0.34 = 0.7582
2.29 x 0.34 = 0.7786
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      06-26-2014, 11:52 PM   #29
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1 mph difference in traps is negligable... I would see these differences the same day on the same tune, run after run. How you shift will also play a role in this.

1 run 1mph up and then 1 run 1mph down and vice versa.
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      06-26-2014, 11:53 PM   #30
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Pretty high praise, I'm so amped now!
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      06-26-2014, 11:59 PM   #31
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If the drag figure includes area then it would be CdA, not Cd. But then these numbers for CdA would be wrong. Where did they come from?

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As posted in the technical specs in the sticky in this forum.
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      06-27-2014, 12:38 AM   #32
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Two lbs.? Surely that is irrelevant.
It's totally relevant. And, quit calling me Shirley.
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      06-27-2014, 01:13 AM   #33
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119mph is very nice
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      06-27-2014, 08:10 AM   #34
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Hum, it may be a while before this issue hits the newsstand. I plan to buy all magazines with a M3/M4 review and keep them.
Im doing exactly this. I was travelling in Europe last month and got a copy of both EVO and Top Gear that reviewed the cars. Since Im a magazine Junkie anyway, I get most of them delivered already (how can you say no to $5/year?)

I honestly think that keeping them all will be a positive factor when its time to sell in the far distant future, if ever. I can send you a list of the magazines I already have from the past few weeks if that helps.
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      06-27-2014, 08:40 AM   #35
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      06-27-2014, 08:49 AM   #36
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A difference in 1.3mph in trap speeds is what I would call "normal variation". Even on the same day, with the same car. I don't know their testing procedure here, but remember to that simply different levels of heat soak can produce this variation in N/A and turbo cars.

Bottom line is it's a 118-119mph trap speed car. That needs to be put into perspective:

The 2007 911 turbo, considered to be brutally fast with 480hp, trapped 118-119mph consistently.

In other words, I expect the same in gear thrust (not launch) as a 997.1 911 turbo. Which is bonkers.
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Wow finally some stats I've been waiting for! 60-0 in 104 for a ~3600 lb car is impressive in my opinion (thank you Brembo, Michelin, and BMW ///M for combining the two in a proper config ). 1 g on the skidpad, and quarter miles at 12.1 @ ~118 mph oh hell yes!

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      06-27-2014, 09:14 AM   #38
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I wonder what R&D's initial reviews for the E92 M3 were like? This writer doesn't seem to be a fan.
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Will be picking up this issue when it hits stands
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      06-27-2014, 10:08 AM   #40
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I wonder what R&D's initial reviews for the E92 M3 were like? This writer doesn't seem to be a fan.
Not sure Ive ever read such negative comments on the e92. That car was beloved for many reasons by many people.
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Not sure Ive ever read such negative comments on the e92. That car was beloved for many reasons by many people.
Well aren't you lucky I am here to publicize myself?

A couple of months ago I assembled a lot of the original E9x reviews into one thread so folks could see was not all sunshine, lollipops, etc.

http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=989324

As I say there, I think the F8x has reviewed at least as well (quite possibly better) than the old gal......
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      06-27-2014, 10:17 AM   #42
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I wonder what R&D's initial reviews for the E92 M3 were like? This writer doesn't seem to be a fan.
Not seeing this at all... seemed like a fan to me?
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      06-27-2014, 11:24 AM   #43
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Not seeing this at all... seemed like a fan to me?
Did you read where the writer says "the last generation M3 didn't put a big, goofy smile on my face until it was howling near its 8400-rpm redline. Unless the E92 was pushed hard, it wasn't a special, memorable car. Fat Elvis could still sing, but his spirit was broken."

I'll beg to differ. My E92 puts a big, goofy smile on my face even when I'm just washing it.
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We may not have an autobahn but down here in Texas we have the next best thing: 85Mph freeway from Austin to San Antone.

Add the usual 10% speed limit "limit before getting a ticket" and that brings you closer to 95Mph. Not a bad speed to be cruising at!
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