How is the manual transmission?

MatthewDavid · 03-15-2015, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by AlterZgo

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Originally Posted by MatthewDavid

Btw the F82 rev matches even into first right?

Yes and it's so cool when it does that.

Haha can't tell if you're giving me shit or not

I'm getting the MPE so I am actually excited to hear the downshift even into first (glutton I know).

Sedan_Clan · 03-15-2015, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by stuka

Anyone here who has owned an E46 or E36 M3's?

Can you confirm that the F8x clutch is heavier like these two M3's?

Or is it super soft like stepping on dog excrement like the E9x?

It's heavy.

Black Gold · 03-15-2015, 11:16 AM

I would say this is tied for the best transmission ive driven from BMW.

I liked the e46 transmission, though it was a little tricky to shift smoothly at lower gears when driving slowly.

I loved the 1m transmission, this thing was spectacular. Great shifter, great clutch, easy to drive etc.

This car is tied with the 1m for me. Shifter is even better IMO, and clutch is probably tied. Its better in that its got a wide engagement point, but its not quite as good as the clutch is a little light for my taste (BUT, nowhere near as light as the spring loaded e9x which I never got fully comfortable with even in 2 years)

Overall, excellent transmission and finally one that doesn't embarrass itself compared to the options from audi and Porsche.

biggripper · 03-16-2015, 04:18 AM

So I understand that the rev-match feature is switched off when in Sport+. Is it possible to turn in on in Sport+? Based on the fact that you have to be in Sport+ to drive the car without rev-match, I’m guessing the answer is no.

Mr.SugarSkulls · 03-16-2015, 06:46 AM

I have an f13 m6 Mt- and I loveeee it. Never going dct again!

AlterZgo · 03-16-2015, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by MrSugarSkulls

I have an f13 m6 Mt- and I loveeee it. Never going dct again!

Awesome! I had a 6MT E60 sedan. I would guess the take rate on a 6MT M6 would be minuscule. Great to see you keeping the 6MT alive.

specracer · 03-16-2015, 07:27 PM

You are correct, no cant be turned on in sport plus. It should be able to be turned on and especially off (in my opinion) in what ever mode. Driver to decide.

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So I understand that the rev-match feature is switched off when in Sport+. Is it possible to turn in on in Sport+? Based on the fact that you have to be in Sport+ to drive the car without re-match, I’m guessing the answer is no.

Black Gold · 03-16-2015, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by MrSugarSkulls

I have an f13 m6 Mt- and I loveeee it. Never going dct again!

damn im jelly

I love the m6

JoeFromPA · 03-16-2015, 10:01 PM

The shifter lever, gear gates, gear lever bushings and linkage, clutch, pressure plate, flywheel, and clutch actuation through the pedal are all...

The best all around combination I've ever driven. The clutch pedal is slightly light, the gear shifting is slightly chunky/notchy. You can't have everything and usually you have to sacrifice one of the following:

- Either the car shifts like crap in traffic due to too heavy a clutch, too grabby a clutch/pressure plate, too light a flywheel, or too notchy a gear shift or...

- It shifts great in traffic but when you are ripping on it it feels vague and disconnected due to a softer clutchpedal (effort), softing grabbing clutch, soft shifter bushings, etc.

This is very balanced. Slightly tiring in traffic while maintaining excellent aggressive driving feel and operation.

AlterZgo · 03-16-2015, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by MatthewDavid

Haha can't tell if you're giving me shit or not

I'm getting the MPE so I am actually excited to hear the downshift even into first (glutton I know).

Not at all. I love the fact that it rev matches into 1st. Causes some stares and head turns with pedestrians at crosswalks, but better that than silent Teslas that creep up on people.

MatthewDavid · 03-16-2015, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by AlterZgo

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Originally Posted by MatthewDavid

Haha can't tell if you're giving me shit or not

I'm getting the MPE so I am actually excited to hear the downshift even into first (glutton I know).

Not at all. I love the fact that it rev matches into 1st. Causes some stares and head turns with pedestrians at crosswalks, but better that than silent Teslas that creep up on people.

I LOVE that blip to the stop sign. Do it every time!

Mr.SugarSkulls · 03-17-2015, 02:51 AM

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I have an f13 m6 Mt- and I loveeee it. Never going dct again!

Awesome! I had a 6MT E60 sedan. I would guess the take rate on a 6MT M6 would be minuscule. Great to see you keeping the 6MT alive.

Appreciate that brother. Yeahhh,!theyre all special orders. Any that you find laying around on a dealer is a buyer who backed out. Supposedly this is the last M6 coming in mt at which of its true- I will be forced to look outside the brand (if I'm buying a dct that's over 6 figures- there are better options out there you know?)

XPNY · 03-17-2015, 03:37 AM

AMAZING

goliathonline · 03-17-2015, 03:57 AM

I haven't been able to get smooth shifts down in this car. I bought a demo with 3500km, and I dunno if the guy before me fried the clutch, but sometimes I smell a slight burning after driving the car and I fear that it's the clutch. If I attempt to shift normally the car is very jerky as in it bucks back and forth like a bronco, especially in sport+ and in the first 3 gears. It seems like I have to ride the clutch a bit when I switch gears to prevent this. What would you guys recommend I do? I'm at around 7000km.

SierraZulu9 · 03-17-2015, 04:19 AM

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Originally Posted by goliathonline

I haven't been able to get smooth shifts down in this car. I bought a demo with 3500km, and I dunno if the guy before me fried the clutch, but sometimes I smell a slight burning after driving the car and I fear that it's the clutch. If I attempt to shift normally the car is very jerky as in it bucks back and forth like a bronco, especially in sport+ and in the first 3 gears. It seems like I have to ride the clutch a bit when I switch gears to prevent this. What would you guys recommend I do? I'm at around 7000km.

You will get the sweet spot down on the shifts soon. But don't worry about the burning smell because I have noticed that with the car too and it is like a slight rubber/clutch burning smell... but I have also noticed that smell when I just turn on my car and run it a little to show my friends the exhaust sound or whatever. It's completely normal.

AlterZgo · 03-17-2015, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by goliathonline

I haven't been able to get smooth shifts down in this car. I bought a demo with 3500km, and I dunno if the guy before me fried the clutch, but sometimes I smell a slight burning after driving the car and I fear that it's the clutch. If I attempt to shift normally the car is very jerky as in it bucks back and forth like a bronco, especially in sport+ and in the first 3 gears. It seems like I have to ride the clutch a bit when I switch gears to prevent this. What would you guys recommend I do? I'm at around 7000km.

Throttle is definitely more sensitive in sport+ which makes it slightly harder to shift smoothly. Lack of rev matching in sport+ also makes things slightly jerkier if you don't rev match perfectly when downshifting. I find that I can eventually get used to the touchy throttle in sport+ after a while but I lose my touch again if I drive in sport or efficient for a while.

CaryTheLabelGuy · 03-17-2015, 08:55 AM

Honestly, I only drive in Sport+ throttle mode. This is what I'm use to on my 620whp Evo. A direct throttle that I'm in control of. I don't particularly care for the automatic throttle blips in the other modes. I do it all myself.

Now on the highway, I'll use economy mode, but that's it.

I'd also like to add that the 6MT in the F8X is VERY nice. One of the nicest in the biz for sure. I've driven just about every performance car on the market and I'm in love with this thing.

3er · 03-17-2015, 09:58 AM

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Very slightly.

That clutch is on par with the super overassisted Turbo clutch in both 996 and 997.

Which is to say that it sucks.

Everyone has their own preference and I won't argue that. However, I much prefer the F80 clutch over the clutch in my 996tt. Night and day, IMO. I felt that the 996tt clutch was incredibly vague and I had to listen to the engine versus using feel. I can easily go on feel alone in the F80.

m3z · 03-21-2015, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by goliathonline

I haven't been able to get smooth shifts down in this car. I bought a demo with 3500km, and I dunno if the guy before me fried the clutch, but sometimes I smell a slight burning after driving the car and I fear that it's the clutch. If I attempt to shift normally the car is very jerky as in it bucks back and forth like a bronco, especially in sport+ and in the first 3 gears. It seems like I have to ride the clutch a bit when I switch gears to prevent this. What would you guys recommend I do? I'm at around 7000km.

Doesn't bmw replace clutches part of their free maintenance program? That's what my cousins SA told him

rubber_ducky · 03-22-2015, 05:06 AM

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Doesn't bmw replace clutches part of their free maintenance program? That's what my cousins SA told him

I seriuosly doubt it. The life expectancy of a clutch extends way beyond whatever the maintenance program term is. To have a clutch wear out that quickly would likely be deemed abuse, for which I'm sure there's language in the maint program terms and conditions. Seems to me that that SA was pulling your cousin's leg

997CABOVA · 03-22-2015, 06:46 AM

Just got my 1200 mile service done last week so i was using sport + for the first time haha it was weird after having the car rev match for me, i got some work to do

swagon · 03-22-2015, 07:54 AM

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I have an f13 m6 Mt- and I loveeee it. Never going dct again!

You sir, are a hero.

03-15-2015, 11:16 AM	#135
Black Gold Major General 593 Rep 5,396 Posts Drives: M3 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Texas iTrader: (15)	I would say this is tied for the best transmission ive driven from BMW. I liked the e46 transmission, though it was a little tricky to shift smoothly at lower gears when driving slowly. I loved the 1m transmission, this thing was spectacular. Great shifter, great clutch, easy to drive etc. This car is tied with the 1m for me. Shifter is even better IMO, and clutch is probably tied. Its better in that its got a wide engagement point, but its not quite as good as the clutch is a little light for my taste (BUT, nowhere near as light as the spring loaded e9x which I never got fully comfortable with even in 2 years) Overall, excellent transmission and finally one that doesn't embarrass itself compared to the options from audi and Porsche. __________________
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JoeFromPA Colonel 1797 Rep 2,997 Posts Drives: '15 AW M3 6MT Stripper Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: SE PA iTrader: (0)	The shifter lever, gear gates, gear lever bushings and linkage, clutch, pressure plate, flywheel, and clutch actuation through the pedal are all... The best all around combination I've ever driven. The clutch pedal is slightly light, the gear shifting is slightly chunky/notchy. You can't have everything and usually you have to sacrifice one of the following: - Either the car shifts like crap in traffic due to too heavy a clutch, too grabby a clutch/pressure plate, too light a flywheel, or too notchy a gear shift or... - It shifts great in traffic but when you are ripping on it it feels vague and disconnected due to a softer clutchpedal (effort), softing grabbing clutch, soft shifter bushings, etc. This is very balanced. Slightly tiring in traffic while maintaining excellent aggressive driving feel and operation.
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03-17-2015, 03:57 AM	#146
goliathonline New Member 22 Rep 28 Posts Drives: BMW M4 Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Canada iTrader: (0)	I haven't been able to get smooth shifts down in this car. I bought a demo with 3500km, and I dunno if the guy before me fried the clutch, but sometimes I smell a slight burning after driving the car and I fear that it's the clutch. If I attempt to shift normally the car is very jerky as in it bucks back and forth like a bronco, especially in sport+ and in the first 3 gears. It seems like I have to ride the clutch a bit when I switch gears to prevent this. What would you guys recommend I do? I'm at around 7000km. __________________ M-Power
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CaryTheLabelGuy Colonel 2637 Rep 2,809 Posts Drives: 2016 M4 ZCP Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Jacksonville, FL iTrader: (0)	Honestly, I only drive in Sport+ throttle mode. This is what I'm use to on my 620whp Evo. A direct throttle that I'm in control of. I don't particularly care for the automatic throttle blips in the other modes. I do it all myself. Now on the highway, I'll use economy mode, but that's it. I'd also like to add that the 6MT in the F8X is VERY nice. One of the nicest in the biz for sure. I've driven just about every performance car on the market and I'm in love with this thing. Last edited by CaryTheLabelGuy; 03-17-2015 at 09:15 AM..
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997CABOVA First Lieutenant 193 Rep 373 Posts Drives: G83 Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: New England iTrader: (1)	Just got my 1200 mile service done last week so i was using sport + for the first time haha it was weird after having the car rev match for me, i got some work to do __________________ 22 G83 X Drive Toronto Red Black Interior Blue Calipers Frozen Black Edelweiss LT3
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