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      11-13-2017, 05:39 PM   #595
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The production date of my ordered M4 falls on December 2017 so I'll probably get the steel driveshaft. However I don't care at all. All those stiffness, cost cutting and weight saving arguments are nonsense to me. As long as the car has the same performance and reliability as the previous I'm fine with it.

Unless someone tells me it's impossible that the performance could remain unaffected.
I'll tell you: it is very unlikely the performance will be unaffected.

There. Now with that said, will you be able to feel the difference on the daily drive? Unlikely.
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      11-13-2017, 06:01 PM   #596
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M3/M4 will still be great, just won’t have the real masterpiece CFRP driveshaft, will not offer exceptional strength while reducing rotating mass, which will result in a not as tight a drive with more counteractive momentum.

will not be a FEATHERWEIGHT HEAVY-HITTER, maybe a middleweight heavy-breather
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      11-21-2017, 12:10 PM   #597
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Anyone have any information when bmw will be installing these petrol exhaust filters?

I think this is gonna be a bigger deal then the drive shaft..

Ppf is gonna be installed in the exhaust, how much hp will it take away and how will it change the exhaust tone and loudness

Also some manufactures make tuning changes due to this and add sensors to the ppf..

Since the M3 EOP is coming in less then a year, it wont receive the ppf.. but the M4 still have another year or two of production, it seems thats the s55 that is gonna receive the PPF

" for production-related reasons, this pre-enabling needs to be carried out universally for the BMW M3 Sedan, BMW M4 Coupe and BMW M4 Convertible"

Looks like the M3 will receive the steel driveshaft even tho it will never have a ppf installed in its life cycle..
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      11-21-2017, 12:35 PM   #598
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So people should be ok also then since it won't affect daily driving.
If ZCP is set back back to 430HP and the 666 forge wheels are now flow-form ones. Hey you won't feel the difference trust us, we know cause we build the cars


And BMW will recall all M3/M4 for retrofit with this fuel filter emission thingy and install all steel drive shafts on cars already on the street (after all it's regulation, right?), and if anyone interested I have a bridge in Seattle for sale too.
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      11-21-2017, 04:33 PM   #599
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First person to weigh the steel vs CF drive shaft wins the internet.
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      11-30-2017, 03:34 PM   #600
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You should expect about 10-20kg+ increase in weight. Climate mafias are trying to undermine best sports car in the segment...
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You should expect about 10-20kg+ increase in weight. Climate mafias are trying to undermine best sports car in the segment...
20 kilos is only on the long wheelbase version for the Chinese market. It incorporates a rear footrest.
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Phew, I have a car scheduled for week 41 production. Down to the wire!
Well, I did, at least. Turns out they reportedly built it with the automatic transmission, so a new car has been ordered that is anticipated to be built in February.
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      12-04-2017, 05:20 PM   #603
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Anyone who's had a car built week 40 +/- actually verified the carbon shaft is in the car? I have to put on a lift to check.
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Anyone who's had a car built week 40 +/- actually verified the carbon shaft is in the car? I have to put on a lift to check.
Waiting on a new M3/M4 owner to snap a pic for the whole community to put this to rest!
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Waiting on a new M3/M4 owner to snap a pic for the whole community to put this to rest!
They'll be too ashamed to.
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Anyone who's had a car built week 40 +/- actually verified the carbon shaft is in the car? I have to put on a lift to check.
Waiting on a new M3/M4 owner to snap a pic for the whole community to put this to rest!
It will take some doing, namely, removing parts of the undercarriage to actually see the driveshaft. Not sure how many care to deal with the hassle haha
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Anyone who's had a car built week 40 +/- actually verified the carbon shaft is in the car? I have to put on a lift to check.
Waiting on a new M3/M4 owner to snap a pic for the whole community to put this to rest!
It will take some doing, namely, removing parts of the undercarriage to actually see the driveshaft. Not sure how many care to deal with the hassle haha
Rear exhaust heatshield by the diff is open enough that you can slide a cellphone pic in from what i remember, enough to get a small glimpse of the driveshaft
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Now that I have mine I really don't care
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Congrats. How quickly did you go from port to dealer
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Congrats. How quickly did you go from port to dealer
Not sure I actually delayed delivery for a month to coincide with my pull ahead.
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