Official BMW M3 and M4 Competition Package Details, Pricing and Photos

[solstice]

Originally Posted by bluekn8286

Now that I think about it; this makes the zcp M3/4 pretty expensive. Wasn't the comp pack cheaper for the e92 series?

E9X ZCP = Wheels ( cast ), new springs and EDC + DSC tuning.
F8X ZCP = Wheels ( Forged ), new springs, dampers and roll bars, EDC + DSC + Active diff tuning, Power tune, Sports exhaust, Sports seats.

All in all I guess the F8X ZCP offers a more relative value if you like the content but yes it is a higher $ number and more content and thereby more "expensive" in absolute terms.

[CanAutM3]

Originally Posted by solstice

E9X ZCP = Wider Wheels ( cast ), new springs, dampers and EDC + MDM tuning.
F8X ZCP = Larger Wheels ( Forged ), wider and larger tires, new springs, dampers and roll bars, EDC + DSC + Active diff tuning, Power tune, Sports exhaust, Sports seats, black kidney grills, black side markers, black exhaust tips, stitched seatbelt.

All in all I guess the F8X ZCP offers a more relative value if you like the content but yes it is a higher $ number and more content and thereby more "expensive" in absolute terms.

Made a few corrections

[Smoltz]

What a sad state of affairs. At least Porsche has the right idea.

[solstice]

Originally Posted by CanAutM3

Made a few corrections

Thanks for completing the lists
My view remain the same and I deliberately omitted some F8X fluff, I didn't know about the different dampers on the E9X though but DSC and MDM is the same core function to me

Now when you've seen the official content and price what's your personal view? Worth it?

[CanAutM3]

Originally Posted by solstice

Thanks for completing the lists
My view remain the same and I deliberately omitted some F8X fluff, I didn't know about the different dampers on the E9X though but DSC and MDM is the same core function to me

Now when you've seen the official content and price what's your personal view? Worth it?

Not sure yet. I need to find out what the pricing in Canada will be. We get the 19" 437M standard in Canada and EDC is only $900CAD ($625USD). They need to bring the CP price down for the value to be there.

Also, here in Canada, on the E9X, the CP was $5900 the first year it was introduced ($3900 for ZOK + $2000 for EDC) and they then dropped the price to $2900 the following year (with EDC now included in the package). Since I will only be changing my car for MY2017, I will wait to see the entire pricing/package strategy at that time before deciding if I tick the CP box.

Further, I am not totally sold on the entire package. I like the suspension, EDC/MDM/E-Diff tweaks and power increase. I don't like the wheels so much (more because they are 20" than because of the style) and don't really care about the seats, belts and blacked out bits (cool items, but I could go without, so they have no "value" to me).

Yes, the E9X CP had different dampers . I specified MDM because only MDM was tweaked on the E9X, standard DSC remained unchanged. Here, on the F8X, they seem to hint that standard DSC is also tweaked.

[solstice]

Originally Posted by CanAutM3

Not sure yet. I need to find out what the pricing in Canada will be. We get the 19" 437M standard in Canada and EDC is only $900CAD ($625USD). They need to bring the price down for the value to be there.

Also, here in Canada, on the E9X, the CP was $5900 the first year it was introduced ($3900 for ZOK + $2000 for EDC) and they then dropped the price to $2900 the following year (with EDC now included in the package). Since I will only be changing my car for MY2017, I will wait to see the entire pricing/package strategy at that time before deciding if I tick the CP box.

Further, I am not totally sold on the entire package. I like the suspension, EDC/MDM/E-Diff tweaks and power increase. I don't like the wheels so much (more because they are 20" than because of the style) and don't really care about the seats, belts and blacked out bits (cool items, but I could go without, so they have no "value" to me).

Yes, the E9X CP had different dampers . I specified MDM because only MDM was tweaked on the E9X, standard DSC remained unchanged. Here, on the F8X, they seem to hint that standard DSC is also tweaked.

Thanks, I'm pretty sure I'll be ticking the box if I get another one. I like everything about it except the adaptive suspension and I think it's a bargain. And Scott26's comment that "everything" has been tightened is promising but as all marketing propaganda that needs to be verified by the only person's opinion that matters, mine

[bluekn8286]

Originally Posted by solstice

E9X ZCP = Wheels ( cast ), new springs and EDC + DSC tuning.
F8X ZCP = Wheels ( Forged ), new springs, dampers and roll bars, EDC + DSC + Active diff tuning, Power tune, Sports exhaust, Sports seats.

All in all I guess the F8X ZCP offers a more relative value if you like the content but yes it is a higher $ number and more content and thereby more "expensive" in absolute terms.

Ahhh I see; this makes sense. Thank you for clarifying this!

[dgp]

Originally Posted by CanAutM3

Made a few corrections

Wish that was true-but in the marketing materials competition package wheels are 20X9 front and 20X10 rear and not wider than 18s or 19s...tires are wider however

[W///]

Originally Posted by solstice

Thanks, I'm pretty sure I'll be ticking the box if I get another one. I like everything about it except the adaptive suspension and I think it's a bargain. And Scott26's comment that "everything" has been tightened is promising but as all marketing propaganda that needs to be verified by the only person's opinion that matters, mine

I really wanted passive shocks as well, so ZCP remains up in the air for me. We'll see how big of a difference the other tweaks do.

I'd take Scott's comments with a grain of salt. He was adament that there would be no power bump afterall

[CanAutM3]

Originally Posted by dgp

Wish that was true-but in the marketing materials competition package wheels are 20X9 front and 20X10 rear and not wider than 18s or 19s...tires are wider however

You are correct, I fixed my OP

[Boss330]

Originally Posted by solstice

Thanks, I'm pretty sure I'll be ticking the box if I get another one. I like everything about it except the adaptive suspension and I think it's a bargain. And Scott26's comment that "everything" has been tightened is promising but as all marketing propaganda that needs to be verified by the only person's opinion that matters, mine

I have no clue as to how the CP will change the F8x, but from reviews on the F10 M5 CP it "transformed" the car's handling. Heard and read several saying that "this was how the M5 should have been at launch"

The F10 M5 CP also consists of the same suspension and electronic tweaks as described for the F8x. Many F10 owners have retrofitted sway bars to the CP version, as that significantly improves cornering over the std M5 sway bars.

I would say that the F10 M5 CP suggests the changes in steering, sway bars, suspension settings, and software changes really makes a diffference. If that is the case on the F8x will be interesting to find out via reviews etc.

[W///]

Originally Posted by Boss330

I have no clue as to how the CP will change the F8x, but from reviews on the F10 M5 CP it "transformed" the car's handling. Heard and read several saying that "this was how the M5 should have been at launch"

The F10 M5 CP also consists of the same suspension and electronic tweaks as described for the F8x. Many F10 owners have retrofitted sway bars to the CP version, as that significantly improves cornering over the std M5 sway bars.

I would say that the F10 M5 CP suggests the changes in steering, sway bars, suspension settings, and software changes really makes a diffference. If that is the case on the F8x will be interesting to find out via reviews etc.

I personally have a feeling it'll make a difference you can feel, but keep in mind witj the M3/4, they didn't change any bushings or do steering rack/eps tweaks. But then again, the M5 had pretty mediocre reviews to begin with

[W///]

Originally Posted by solstice

Thanks, I'm pretty sure I'll be ticking the box if I get another one. I like everything about it except the adaptive suspension and I think it's a bargain. And Scott26's comment that "everything" has been tightened is promising but as all marketing propaganda that needs to be verified by the only person's opinion that matters, mine

What's your reason for wanting passive btw?

[shivaswrath]

Originally Posted by CanAutM3

Not sure yet. I need to find out what the pricing in Canada will be. We get the 19" 437M standard in Canada and EDC is only $900CAD ($625USD). They need to bring the CP price down for the value to be there.

Also, here in Canada, on the E9X, the CP was $5900 the first year it was introduced ($3900 for ZOK + $2000 for EDC) and they then dropped the price to $2900 the following year (with EDC now included in the package). Since I will only be changing my car for MY2017, I will wait to see the entire pricing/package strategy at that time before deciding if I tick the CP box.

Further, I am not totally sold on the entire package. I like the suspension, EDC/MDM/E-Diff tweaks and power increase. I don't like the wheels so much (more because they are 20" than because of the style) and don't really care about the seats, belts and blacked out bits (cool items, but I could go without, so they have no "value" to me).

Yes, the E9X CP had different dampers . I specified MDM because only MDM was tweaked on the E9X, standard DSC remained unchanged. Here, on the F8X, they seem to hint that standard DSC is also tweaked.

Wow, I didn't know they dropped the price over he life of the ZCP option.

I suspect with he C63s variant taking on the Comp Pack, they may or should market adjust a little down over time...

[CanAutM3]

Originally Posted by tw4life

You forgot the lightweight sport seats. 5.5k is worth every penny imo.

Read again, sport seats were in the list

If "worth it" is still debatable. The whole package will cost barely anything more to produce for BMW, yet they are asking a rather hefty sum for it.

[CanAutM3]

Originally Posted by Boss330

I have no clue as to how the CP will change the F8x, but from reviews on the F10 M5 CP it "transformed" the car's handling. Heard and read several saying that "this was how the M5 should have been at launch"

The F10 M5 CP also consists of the same suspension and electronic tweaks as described for the F8x. Many F10 owners have retrofitted sway bars to the CP version, as that significantly improves cornering over the std M5 sway bars.

I would say that the F10 M5 CP suggests the changes in steering, sway bars, suspension settings, and software changes really makes a diffference. If that is the case on the F8x will be interesting to find out via reviews etc.

As was already posted earlier in the thread, there was quite a bit more improvement possible on the M5. The M5 received rather lukewarm reviews in the handling department when it first was introduced. Further, the M5 CP also received revised suspension bushings and steering rack, which is not the case on the F8X.

The CP on the F8X will likely bring improvements, but I seriously doubt they will be as substantial as they were on the M5.

[BMWsully]

I was going to create a separate thread for this but figured I'd just post here. A source whom I trust a great deal just told me that the MPPK portion of this will be available for retrofit starting in June for $1750 USD.

Can Scott or anyone else confirm?

[minn19]

Originally Posted by TRZ06

I sure hope the changes they made to the suspension damping are extreme.

Because by today's standards for performance oriented cars, the damping on the standard M is embarrassing.

You pay top dollar for that M badge, you expect world class suspension/damping, yet cars as cheap as an Audi S3 with its magnetic shocks kill it in the damping department.

And even if their updates are extreme, you shouldn't have to pay extra for it when you are buying an M badged car.

Unless you need adjustability for the track, you should not feel like you have to step up to a coil-over suspension to get world class damping on an M.

Serious question, what is so embarrassing about it? And if you think this why did you buy one? Did you mod the suspension already to suit the way you like it?

[minn19]

Originally Posted by BMWsully

I was going to create a separate thread for this but figured I'd just post here. A source whom I trust a great deal just told me that the MPPK portion of this will be available for retrofit starting in June for $1750 USD.

Can Scott or anyone else confirm?

$1750 for 19 more ponies? I'll pass.

[ferrarif1]

Am I the only one here who thinks the seats are hideous? I keep thinking of my kids poking me in the kidneys as I drive.

[z335is]

What a huge slap in the face from BMW releasing this just halfway through the 2nd model year. I know it's not a huge improvement, but they clearly could have included all of this on the release model.

If they don't offer some kind of retrofit option to early adopters, then this will be my last BMW.

[Sassicaia]

Originally Posted by z335is

What a huge slap in the face from BMW releasing this just halfway through the 2nd model year. I know it's not a huge improvement, but they clearly could have included all of this on the release model.

If they don't offer some kind of retrofit option to early adopters, then this will be my last BMW.

The sense of entitlement is amazing. BMW owes you nothing in the way of release dates that suit your personal wants.

Everyone knew BMW was releasing a CP "in the future" and to be honest it was suspected as early as June/July 2015 ( I read it on these boards) that it was likely to come Spring 2016. Buying before it was released was 100% your choice.