Burger Tuning intake vs stock airbox Dyno results - Independent testing

[Mike@N54Tuning.com]

Originally Posted by jordon335

that is not what Mike is suggesting. He has drawn a black line for both HP and TQ.

the gain from the solid red line (map2 stock intake) to solid green line (map7 BMS Intake) is around 80hp-100hp. Which is suggesting that the intake from a stock set map2, to the BMS set up map7 is 80-100hp which just seems impossible.

He also drew a line between red dotted line (stock intake map2 TQ) and the green dotten line (bms intake map7 TQ) and draws the same conclusion that the intake is making roughly between 80-100WTQ. Again seem impossible.

im not arguing the gains, although i am skeptical. Just pointing out what Mike clearly stated.

Yes exactly Two lines, one for HP and one for TQ. Both showing similar ~100 wheel HP/TQ gain @ 4K

Would love to have those kind of gains (40-50) from just an intake but this goes against everything I have seen on this platform, and from my own personal car as well. I guess we need to wait for more data.

To put into perspective the gains suggested form this dyno are more then stage1 tuning gives. (stock versus map1).

Mike

[Mandi90TT]

Very skeptical. Dyno is odd and pretty sketchy

[mike@x-ph.com]

Originally Posted by Dave 90TT

Very skeptical. Dyno is odd and pretty sketchy

I did not expect this kind of gains for sure but i cant think of any reason why a Dinan vendor would inflate Burger Tuning numbers

[AM4ZING]

The gains are mind blowing.. if indeed the results are true.

Guess we need to now hope that it wasn't a mistake cuz now im even more anxious

[BMW M4 PWR]

Originally Posted by rr006rbc

This is one magical intake..

Reminds me of when AEM and Injen claimed 25 horsepower gain on my Integra GSR back in the day haha..

X2*

[SALES@RSW]

Burger Tuning's graphs on his own site show close to 100hp difference between Map 2 and Stock at 4k, not sure why nobody believes that this could be feasible?

[Mike@N54Tuning.com]

Originally Posted by SALES@RSW

Burger Tuning's graphs on his own site show close to 100hp difference between Map 2 and Stock at 4k, not sure why nobody believes that this could be feasible?

Look at the graph.. Map2 to Map7 is like ~15-20 hp/tq @ 4K. You may have been looking at map0/stock and comparing to map7.

EDIT.. Looking at the Burger graph looks like map1 or map2 (can't tell them apart) is actually higher @ 4K then map7

Mike

[mike@x-ph.com]

Originally Posted by Mike@N54Tuning.com

Look at the graph.. Map2 to Map7 is like 25 hp/tq

Mike

map 2 to map 7 in the dyno i posted is around 30 whp as well.
The difference is made by testing the maps with an intake versus the maps without an intake.
I am surprised by the results (intake vs no-intake) as well but cant think of any other logical explanation for the gains

[SALES@RSW]

Correct, Mike@n54 tuning, the difference between map 2 to map 7 in mike@x-ph's graph shows the same thing....

Both dynos and tests car gains about 100 wtq between map 0 and map 7.

Map 2 actually makes less torque then Map 7 on burgers graph Mike@n54, not sure what you're looking at...

[Apollo_1092]

So these dyno's are done with the intake and a tune on the car? I would be interested in a dyno with a stock car with the intakes and an overall impression to see if the new intakes freak out the stock tune.

[Mike@N54Tuning.com]

Originally Posted by Apollo_1092

So these dyno's are done with the intake and a tune on the car? I would be interested in a dyno with a stock car with the intakes and an overall impression to see if the new intakes freak out the stock tune.

There is no reason the intakes should "freak out" the stock tune Should be good on stock or tuned cars.

Mike

[M3ANOXGREEN]

if this is the case, do you guys have any left in stock?!?!?! these numbers are crazy, esp since everyones been saying nothing more then 10whp with bolt ons and such...

[mike@x-ph.com]

Originally Posted by M3ANOXGREEN

if this is the case, do you guys have any left in stock?!?!?! these numbers are crazy, esp since everyones been saying nothing more then 10whp with bolt ons and such...

few intakes left in stock

[Padfan9]

40 HP gain with an intake? I've never seen that before in my life.

[mike@x-ph.com]

Originally Posted by Padfan9

40 HP gain with an intake? I've never seen that before in my life.

Agree about the results being surprising

[RocketBoots]

Interesting results. Seems like peak HP is not affected, but that the HP comes on much sooner, in the midrange. I'd love to see Dyno's for a stock car with no tune (or tune turned off) and no DP's, as well as with other intakes.

[Mandi90TT]

Originally Posted by mike@x-ph.com

Agree about the results being surprising

You say surprising, I say sketchy, and/or unbelievable.

[mike@x-ph.com]

Originally Posted by Dave 90TT

You say surprising, I say sketchy, and/or unbelievable.

Why would you call it sketchy?
Burger Tuning did not advertise these numbers, no Burger Tuning vendor did either.
This is a dyno from a customer car sent by a Dinan dealer.
No one is making any claims in this thread, we are just sharing the dyno numbers we received.

[filetitan]

welp.. glad I have mine on order. haha

[mike@x-ph.com]

After Terry looked at the graphs , he said gains might be to the JB4 adapting rather than the intake.
I spoke to Southwest Bimmers, they said multiple pulls were done before recording dyno numbers, the Jb4 had more than enough time to adapt.

[Marckymarc305]

Originally Posted by mike@x-ph.com

Why would you call it sketchy?
Burger Tuning did not advertise these numbers, no Burger Tuning vendor did either.
This is a dyno from a customer car sent by a Dinan dealer.
No one is making any claims in this thread, we are just sharing the dyno numbers we received.

I wanna see a dyno with no tune, just the intake.

[mike@x-ph.com]

Originally Posted by Marckymarc305

I wanna see a dyno with no tune, just the intake.

Im sure at some point we will but at this time i do not know anyone nearby that has a stock car with the BMS intake