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      05-19-2015, 09:16 AM   #67
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I hope it has closer gear ratios than standard DCT.
I would doubt it though, since the DCT on the F8X is an "off the shelf" unit.
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I hope it has closer gear ratios than standard DCT.
I would doubt it though, since the DCT on the F8X is an "off the shelf" unit.
I hear you but I'm not doubting anything with this model.
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I hope it has closer gear ratios than standard DCT.
I hope it still comes in a manual otherwise f it.
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I hope it has closer gear ratios than standard DCT.
I hope it still comes in a manual otherwise f it.
Not a chance. Neither E46 CSL or M3 GTS came in manual. This will be DCT only.
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I hear you but I'm not doubting anything with this model.
the gearbox from what i understand will have the original clutch pack, a shorter final drive (diff) is where they could gain from tight gearing.
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I hear you but I'm not doubting anything with this model.
the gearbox from what i understand will have the original clutch pack, a shorter final drive (diff) is where they could gain from tight gearing.
Agreed. Overall disappointed with DCT gearing and the main reason I went 6mt on my M4. "Regular" DCT wouldn't be a deal breaker but shorter final drive would only benefit a car like that.
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Not a chance. Neither E46 CSL or M3 GTS came in manual. This will be DCT only.
Well in that case I don't have to worry about an allocation anyway.
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Agreed. Overall disappointed with DCT gearing and the main reason I went 6mt on my M4. "Regular" DCT wouldn't be a deal breaker but shorter final drive would only benefit a car like that.
thats funny, I'm contemplating going with the manual so i can be an auto blipping pro in traffic!!!

I've test drive a dct, and a close friend had a manual, very impressive with both, well judged imho. i feel like with the 8zhp in my 7, that the car just hunts too much for gears.......

that being said, the power band of the s55 is broad enough that gearing isn't as important imho.
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Fingers crossed for a Camaro z/28 style track car.

(I would have said gt3 style car but too many Porsche fan boys would object to that comparison)
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Fingers crossed for a Camaro z/28 style track car.

(I would have said gt3 style car but too many Porsche fan boys would object to that comparison)
haaaa

you could have gone with gt3 rs style car.

ps z28 has 305s on the front, thats holy fuck territory
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This means it will be available in the US! Can't wait!

I think that even at or slightly above $100k, this car is worth getting. I presume the M4 GTS will be on par with the 991 GT3, which costs considerably more.

Of course I'm assuming the M4 GTS will cost $20-30k less than a GT3. Otherwise, it's a moot point. At a similar price range, I would take the GT3 over the M4 GTS all day long.
Believe previous one was $145k, so yes, more than GT3.
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This means it will be available in the US! Can't wait!

I think that even at or slightly above $100k, this car is worth getting. I presume the M4 GTS will be on par with the 991 GT3, which costs considerably more.

Of course I'm assuming the M4 GTS will cost $20-30k less than a GT3. Otherwise, it's a moot point. At a similar price range, I would take the GT3 over the M4 GTS all day long.
Won't be on par with a 991 Gt3 in any way shape or form. You'll be quite dissatisfied if you think it will be even worth comparison. And I'm willing to bet it will be more expensive too.

It might be able to compete with a 2010 GT3 when it comes out though.

Mind you the last m3 GTS new in 2010 barely competed with a 996 gt3/RS from 1999. Will be no different again.
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Won't be on par with a 991 Gt3 in any way shape or form. You'll be quite dissatisfied if you think it will be even worth comparison. And I'm willing to bet it will be more expensive too.

It might be able to compete with a 2010 GT3 when it comes out though.

Mind you the last m3 GTS new in 2010 barely competed with a 996 gt3/RS from 1999. Will be no different again.
+1.

The GTS, while very special, still isn't designed to compete with the GT3. It's supposed to be a rare M car that's more track suited from the showroom, nothing more.
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I bet you there is a radio/AC delete option.
i bet you no one takes it.

i wonder how active sound would work.
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Won't be on par with a 991 Gt3 in any way shape or form. You'll be quite dissatisfied if you think it will be even worth comparison. And I'm willing to bet it will be more expensive too.

It might be able to compete with a 2010 GT3 when it comes out though.

Mind you the last m3 GTS new in 2010 barely competed with a 996 gt3/RS from 1999. Will be no different again.
+1.

The GTS, while very special, still isn't designed to compete with the GT3. It's supposed to be a rare M car that's more track suited from the showroom, nothing more.
It's designed to compete but it competes with a GT3 from about 7-10 years ago from its inception, not anything current.
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+1.

The GTS, while very special, still isn't designed to compete with the GT3. It's supposed to be a rare M car that's more track suited from the showroom, nothing more.
idk what you are talking about, this is going to be a 20-30% less expensive gt3 crusher.

ps hold my bag of sarcasm for me also.
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idk what you are talking about, this is going to be a 20-30% less expensive gt3 crusher.

ps hold my bag of sarcasm for me also.
lol
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It's designed to compete but it competes with a GT3 from about 7-10 years ago from its inception, not anything current.
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We agree! It will if it's lucky match a 997 GT3 since the last GTS in 2010 barely matched a 1999 GT3/RS.

I think in all likelihood, the car will be rated at 475-480 hp and be around 3500 lbs.
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I bet you there is a radio/AC delete option.
i bet you no one takes it.

i wonder how active sound would work.
Beats by Dre.... Duh
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