I'm looking to buy an M4 GTS @ MSRP

[mariom3]

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[Powerbeast]

Originally Posted by Lowness

Momentum BMW of Houston, TX has a black one for around MSRP. They have it listed on ebay also.

$20k over asking

[bradleyland]

Originally Posted by Robcut1

I do not know where you are getting your information from Fuddman, but I checked it out and this is straight from the horses mouth:


Hi Robert,

Thank you for your interest in our 2016 M4GTS. If you are in the market for this car, then you probably know more about it than I can tell you. We could have sold it 25-50 times already if we were willing to take MSRP. MSRP is not the "going market rate" for this car. I just got back from a BMW training event is Las Vegas yesterday. I talked to over 25 BMW Sales people and factory reps and it appears as though most BMW Centers that were lucky enough to get one sold them to clients for $25 to $50k over MSRP. The only MSRP deals that I heard were when the owner of the store or their family members purchased the car. We have the car priced at $100k over MSRP. We may be willing to take less. Would you be willing to pay somewhere between $25k and $50k over MSRP? Let me know your thoughts.

Kelly

Anyone who tells you $100k over sticker, but immediately falls back to 1/4 – 1/2 that value isn't really asking $100k over sticker. It's a tactic called anchoring. The it's a trick to get you feeling OK about paying $25k over sticker because hey, they were asking $100k right?

Personally, I wouldn't be up for doing the work, but if you're serious about finding an M4 GTS at MSRP, you're going to have to dig hard. I'm talking about building a phone list of every BMW dealer west of the Mississippi and start dialing. Get a list of everyone who has one, and start playing dealers against another. Start by telling them you've got an offer at $25k over MSRP and work your way down. Send them a photo of Kelly's email with the name blocked out and tell them that you talked them in to the low side of that bargain.

Good luck.

[Gatte]

Originally Posted by bradleyland

Anyone who tells you $100k over sticker, but immediately falls back to 1/4 – 1/2 that value isn't really asking $100k over sticker. It's a tactic called anchoring. The it's a trick to get you feeling OK about paying $25k over sticker because hey, they were asking $100k right?

Personally, I wouldn't be up for doing the work, but if you're serious about finding an M4 GTS at MSRP, you're going to have to dig hard. I'm talking about building a phone list of every BMW dealer west of the Mississippi and start dialing. Get a list of everyone who has one, and start playing dealers against another. Start by telling them you've got an offer at $25k over MSRP and work your way down. Send them a photo of Kelly's email with the name blocked out and tell them that you talked them in to the low side of that bargain.

Good luck.

+1

Build a phone list. When I tried getting on lists for the M2 CSL at MSRP, I did my initial research from this forum (M4 GTS) where a lot of people pointed out dealerships that sell at MSRP. Based on talking to those dealerships, I was able to learn about a few more dealerships that only sell at MSRP. I just went ahead and tried getting my name on every dealership that did this and were prepared to start a list.

It might be a little late to get a GTS at MSRP now but basically, if someone already has a car allocated to them and backs out of it, the dealership could call you and try offering that car to you. That's what happened this weekend when I put up the post about the GTS at MSRP. Slim chance but worth it in my opinion. There are a lot of dealerships on the East coast (especially Atlanta and Virginia) that sell at MSRP or very close to it. Get your names on the list in there and you could get lucky.

That's if you really want the car.

[Gatte]

Originally Posted by Lowness

Momentum BMW of Houston, TX has a black one for around MSRP. They have it listed on ebay also.

Don't go based off of the listing price online. When you call them, they always have a different list price. There are dealerships that list them online at 10K under and spike it up by 25K when you call them.

[oneighty]

Originally Posted by Powerbeast

$20k over asking

This. I think that's the market, more or less. The when that went at live auction was about ~50k over, but that was a one off, frozen, carbon wheels, dog and pony show. Market seems to be in that 15 - 25k range. Haven't heard of anyone transacting at list or 5k over. Maybe there's been a handful at 10k?

I've looked at the car and I think it's very nice and limited, but I just don't see the extra 50k - 60k over a competition pack with some nice M performance bits. Add in the LCI with potential GTS style pack, and the line is going to blur even further.

[IB M]

Originally Posted by oneighty

This. I think that's the market, more or less. The when that went at live auction was about ~50k over, but that was a one off, frozen, carbon wheels, dog and pony show. Market seems to be in that 15 - 25k range. Haven't heard of anyone transacting at list or 5k over. Maybe there's been a handful at 10k?

I've looked at the car and I think it's very nice and limited, but I just don't see the extra 50k - 60k over a competition pack with some nice M performance bits. Add in the LCI with potential GTS style pack, and the line is going to blur even further.

My bet is MSRP will be doable over the winter as some buyers back out and some current owners look to move on to the next great thing. Dealers won't like sitting on cars for 2 or 3 months. Supply is limited but at this high price there are other good options.

[The Automotive Enthusiast]

Originally Posted by M4_GTS

Are you sure they are not pre-sold voucher cars? Hard to believe 1 dealer got 3 allocations out of the 150.

Dealer trade on a M4 GTS.

I know a dealership that got two.

[UltimateBMWfan]

Bwoah, you guys in the US are lucky. Emailed a few dealers here and Germany and they've all been sold, and everything on mobile.de (German car site) is marked up at least 50k, all the way up to 200k and over.

[schnell325]

Originally Posted by UltimateBMWfan

Bwoah, you guys in the US are lucky. Emailed a few dealers here and Germany and they've all been sold, and everything on mobile.de (German car site) is marked up at least 50k, all the way up to 200k and over.

Exactly

[Powerbeast]

Originally Posted by Mo@BMWofFairfax

I know a dealership that got two.

At what price point?

[schnell325]

Originally Posted by Powerbeast

At what price point?

Silly question, but didn't you have a GTS already? Did you manage to sell her?

[Powerbeast]

Originally Posted by schnell325

Silly question, but didn't you have a GTS already? Did you manage to sell her?

Yes I had one of the first GTS cars in the states and I feel at that time the market was still unknown. I purchased my car for $25K over sticker and I was very happy to sell it at the exact price that I purchased the car for. Do I miss the GTS? Absolutely, it's a great car. In all honesty I don't feel it's worth it with a dramatic price increase but at sticker or $10K above I feel it's a worthy example of BMW engineering.

[BMWI8NJ]

I know a dealer that has 2 left.

[slalomfever]

MSRP for a Frozen gray...PM me

[Gatte]

How are so many GTS still available ?? I just don't get it.

Are these used ones that someone's trying to flip and make some money ??

[jballs16]

I refused delivery of mine. AW at BMW of Palm Springs

[jpdchicago]

Just got mine last week in the Chicago area at MSRP. Other customer had voucher and changed their mind. I sure jumped on that one. Alpine white.

[slalomfever]

Originally Posted by Gatte

How are so many GTS still available ?? I just don't get it.

Are these used ones that someone's trying to flip and make some money ??

mine is new....not a resale.

[FotiosF90M5]

I have one available. Mineral Gray. fkalkanis@gallerygroup.com

My dealer will do one at 10k over if anyone is interested. It's like 15k less than most others. PM me if there is any interest.

[PNWM3]

Is there beginning to be a difference in price based on color?

[FotiosF90M5]

Originally Posted by PNWM3

Is there beginning to be a difference in price based on color?

No difference in price at all.