Competition Package - Yes or No?

Thescout13 · 10-14-2017, 03:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Parabolica

With just a few days under my belt, I would say the seats are awesome but the suspension was still a bit soft for my liking, even in sport plus mode. It was especially evident at Nurburgring where the car needed a stiffer set up for some of those high speed turns. Felt like the car was "floating".

Anyways now I can answer this question and I would definitely say YES.

Interesting review. My wife is the non-comp and it feels extremely planted, much more so than her 2 series M-Sport (her words) and I would say on bar or slightly better than my 16? Camaro SS with the MRC. Maybe when we start autocrossing or tracking hard then maybe we will want to upgrade, but cannot really see that happening.

While I will agree that in comfort it can be a little soft (which was nice on the Autobahn on cruise control), when you go Sport or Sport Plus it becomes a new car. Not sayin you are wrong, just an interesting difference in experience. What car did you come from before?

drkeng · 10-14-2017, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by pheerlx

Thread was started in January. ZCP has been available since 2016

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somehow I wasn't focused on it. I'll let the forum know when it becomes an issue. so far not.

boss2k · 10-17-2017, 07:39 PM

Help me take a decision, on the verge of ordering f80 with comp package and trading in my 16 m3 non comp one, is it really worth it ?

Thescout13 · 10-17-2017, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by boss2k

Help me take a decision, on the verge of ordering f80 with comp package and trading in my 16 m3 non comp one, is it really worth it ?

Yes.

maniz · 10-17-2017, 08:06 PM

I weighed this decision very carefully when I was ordering mine in June. I looked at every component between the two, one at a time. The only two things I really liked in ZCP were the exhaust and black exterior upgrades. I bought the exterior pieces from IND for a few hundred $, and exhaust alone was not worth the price difference when it wasn't even the vaunted MPE. I did not like the wheels at all, and knew if I ordered ZCP, I would be forced to love the wheels because upgrading them would then seem far too expensive, and make the package even less appealing.

So in my case, it was an easy choice not to get ZCP.

Aaaaaaaaa · 10-17-2017, 09:24 PM

For me it was worth it because I liked everything in the package and I?m not one to do mods on my own. I like the idea of ?factory modded? so to speak.

KevinM · 10-17-2017, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by boss2k

Help me take a decision, on the verge of ordering f80 with comp package and trading in my 16 m3 non comp one, is it really worth it ?

Well, while I would (and did) order my F80 with ZCP, I would not trade a 2016 non-ZCP if the only reason was to have the ZCP. I'd make sure the car as all the updates and then spend the money you would have lost on something else that is fun. Now, if the the proposition is more or less financially neutral (some guys on the board have swapped leases, etc.), sure why not!

Kimeran · 10-18-2017, 04:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Parabolica

With just a few days under my belt, I would say the seats are awesome but the suspension was still a bit soft for my liking, even in sport plus mode. It was especially evident at Nurburgring where the car needed a stiffer set up for some of those high speed turns. Felt like the car was "floating".

Anyways now I can answer this question and I would definitely say YES.

I had the exact same issue recently.
Was going around a fairly high speed bend and the car felt like it was floating about. Had my suspension in Sport+

Parabolica · 10-18-2017, 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Kimeran

I had the exact same issue recently.
Was going around a fairly high speed bend and the car felt like it was floating about. Had my suspension in Sport+

Yeah it's not as planted as say a 911 but then again it is still a sedan. I may look into the m performance suspension upgrade.

DS_BMW · 10-18-2017, 06:08 AM

For people that have owned both comp pack and non comp pack cars. Does the ZCP feel like it makes more power between 5k-7500k?

Kimeran · 10-18-2017, 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by DS_BMW

For people that have owned both comp pack and non comp pack cars. Does the ZCP feel like it makes more power between 5k-7500k?

It definitely does feel that way.
However, I haven't put my car on a dyno as yet. And had a look at my friend's dyno graph with his M4 non ZCP, you can hardly see any drop off in power on the graph, but you can definitely feel it.

Ferg · 10-18-2017, 08:51 AM

Several articles actually show the regular M faster than the ZCP. Hmmmm?

espressoo · 10-18-2017, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Ferg

Several articles actually show the regular M faster than the ZCP. Hmmmm?

How much of a difference? Milliseconds? I think wheel/tire combo would make a much greater impact on a track than +19 HP.

itrocks4u · 10-18-2017, 09:26 AM

Do what fits your budget.

This forum will convince you that a fully loaded car is the only way to go.

Don't tick the leather...said no one ever
Don't tick the comp box... said no one ever

You will only get opinions based on what one chose.

Habber · 10-18-2017, 04:59 PM

Just from a financial point, it makes sense to get CP and then just sell off the 20's and get 19's to offset some of the cost. The real upgrades are the suspension, seats etc IMO.

///M4ster Yoda · 10-18-2017, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Habber

Just from a financial point, it makes sense to get CP and then just sell off the 20's and get 19's to offset some of the cost. The real upgrades are the suspension, seats etc IMO.

How are the seats an "upgrade"? They are the same seats as a non-ZCP but have holes in them

What's not an upgrade is those fast and furious seat belts

Parabolica · 10-18-2017, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ///M4ster Yoda

How are the seats an "upgrade"? They are the same seats as a non-ZCP but have holes in them

What's not an upgrade is those fast and furious seat belts

Haha. Those stripes on the belts are so subtle, i didn't even notice they were there for a couple of days during my ED.

Habber · 10-18-2017, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Parabolica

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Originally Posted by ///M4ster Yoda

How are the seats an "upgrade"? They are the same seats as a non-ZCP but have holes in them

What's not an upgrade is those fast and furious seat belts

Haha. Those stripes on the belts are so subtle, i didn't even notice they were there for a couple of days during my ED.

The seatbelts alone are worth the $5k

Habber · 10-18-2017, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Habber

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Originally Posted by Parabolica

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Originally Posted by ///M4ster Yoda

How are the seats an "upgrade"? They are the same seats as a non-ZCP but have holes in them

What's not an upgrade is those fast and furious seat belts

Haha. Those stripes on the belts are so subtle, i didn't even notice they were there for a couple of days during my ED.

The seatbelts alone are worth the $5k

Maybe even 6k...

Parabolica · 10-18-2017, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Habber

Maybe even 6k...

Depends, do the rear belts also have the stripes? If so, maybe 10k..

JibSTir13 · 10-18-2017, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Habber

The seatbelts alone are worth the $5k

They are also the source of the increased HP.

georgere · 10-18-2017, 07:44 PM

Also I think that 17-18 non zcp models probably have the same suspension tweaks that ZCP introduced in 2016.
I think ZCP does not offer enough for the money but if I was buying today I could tick the box and save on other options.
Anyway, I saved some money by buying before it was released. I m happy with the car and not sure what would ZCP deliver for me if as I DD my car with occasional back roads fun. Even if I was to go the track, what significant difference I would feel that is worth 5k. On the track where us mortals go, one can be beaten by a 4-cylinder Honda Accord driver if that car is more track oriented and/or its driver is more skilled.

Btw I drove ZCP during m control school and non zcp during my PCD. The difference is too thin. But yes I felt it.

Bottom line, if one questions ZCP worthiness in terms of cost/value, don't get it. It's not worth it.
If your question is does it make the car more of an M, yes it does. Does it make it more fun. Yes. Does it feel sportier, yes it does.

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georgere Lieutenant Colonel 586 Rep 1,935 Posts Drives: 2016 M3 BSM Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Stamford CT iTrader: (1)	Also I think that 17-18 non zcp models probably have the same suspension tweaks that ZCP introduced in 2016. I think ZCP does not offer enough for the money but if I was buying today I could tick the box and save on other options. Anyway, I saved some money by buying before it was released. I m happy with the car and not sure what would ZCP deliver for me if as I DD my car with occasional back roads fun. Even if I was to go the track, what significant difference I would feel that is worth 5k. On the track where us mortals go, one can be beaten by a 4-cylinder Honda Accord driver if that car is more track oriented and/or its driver is more skilled. Btw I drove ZCP during m control school and non zcp during my PCD. The difference is too thin. But yes I felt it. Bottom line, if one questions ZCP worthiness in terms of cost/value, don't get it. It's not worth it. If your question is does it make the car more of an M, yes it does. Does it make it more fun. Yes. Does it feel sportier, yes it does. __________________ My 1st love was 2006 BMW 325i Sport + Prem 6MT but I married the 2016 M3 BSM MDCT.
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