08-11-2011, 07:48 PM | #111 |
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why are they testing the sedan before the coupe? I know coupes will stop production early so they should test the m3 coupe first right?
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It's amazing how many of you keep commenting on the looks of the car. Are you really that clueless?
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Exciting to see the F30/F32 being tested already, but truth is, it is still SO FAR away from coming out and seeing the final production model, that any comments being made about this car already are simply foolish. Im sure it's going to be a blast..Everyone (myself included) ripped apart the pre-production F10 M5...and now, from the photos alone, it seems like everyone has jumped on the bandwagon. BMW knows what they are doing.. lets just let them do their job and we'll just keep buying their product and spend countless hours on here.
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Just a nit, and it's not actually written in stone, but manufacturers typically run their turbo/supercharged offerings a bit richer than their normally aspirated models at wide open throttle in order to reduce peak combustion temps and ward off potential pinging or detonation. Result: More fuel used for a given power level at WOT. In addition, supercharged cars require you to "feed the blower" as drag racers say, because the power required to run the supercharger is real power made by the engine that never makes it to the flywheel. Those ponies are just as hungry as the ones that make it to the wheels. |
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Upscale=we can charge more because the number is higher It reminds me of when AMD was advertising their CPUs as 3200mhz + when in reality the CPU was running at like 2.66ghz
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I generally drive about 55mph coming back from the track and that's where the MPH is give or take Now, if I do 70, it's down to like 17 lol
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They have always charged more for the coupes which was kind of a rip off because they have two less doors and fewer parts making it cheaper to build. Now they can offer additional features on the 4 series not available on the 3 series which will give justification for the increased price. |
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08-11-2011, 10:42 PM | #123 |
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The most interesting thing in the pics is the wheels!
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Sort of off topic, but why running rich reduces combustion temperatures?
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M cars are not about efficiency. Maybe I'm wrong, but trying to have high revving engines (hence relatively low torque) forces to have aggressive gearing which results poor economy. Great pleasure, sounds amazing, but not efficient...
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08-12-2011, 12:59 AM | #127 |
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I'd definitely opt for 4 dr
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i.e., HP/liter of displacement. Also, fuel consumption/mileage economy efficiency has to be taken into context. I don't think S54 / S65 engines' fuel consumption are all that bad, considering they do produce 340 and 420 hp each. |
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08-12-2011, 02:39 AM | #130 |
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BMWs M-GmbH has developed both engine concepts ... an 3.3ltr.V6 based on the S63 and an 3.2ltr.I6 based on the N55 ... the only advantage of the inline-6 (vs the V6) was that it was the cheapest alternative and because of this it was chosen! And for the public they would tell us it was because of tradition.
But tradition of BMW M was innovative engines ... and really innovative was for me only the V6 because it was really compact with great packaging advantages for better handling. And forgot that BMW allows the M-GmbH to develop an complete new engine ... its simply too costly! Greets Uli-HH |
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Completely agree with you. I have an M3 already, and if the next one's going to look like this then I'm probably going to be looking at a GT3 next year.
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