M3 CP vs M4 GTS Drag Race (TopGear)

odiesback · 11-29-2017, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by chucho1026

This is why I can't see myself updating my e92 M3 to a M4.... still can't get over that sound...

I used to think the same but I got over it in a heartbeat!

and I had the MPE exhaust on my E92!...

The Choosey begger · 11-29-2017, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Brake_Late

Pressure and temps. The key to speed. Period.

Wrong

Pressure, temps and more importantly the type of tire compound!

Some compounds do well in the mid 50's temps other get greasy and sloppy in hot temps...

Brake_Late · 11-29-2017, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by anglo

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brake_Late

Pressure and temps. The key to speed. Period.

Wrong

Pressure, temps and more importantly the type of tire compound!

Some compounds do well in the mid 50's temps other get greasy and sloppy in hot temps...

Ask ANY winning race team / crew why data they take and maintain...in pit row... to maintain their dominance both in qualifying and then wheel to wheel racing after that.

Wrong. Lol. Ok wte you say

Tires or talent is all one can run out of
( beyond petrol ) Lol

I was speaking from experience
not a keyboard.

Brake_Late · 11-29-2017, 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anglo

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brake_Late

Pressure and temps. The key to speed. Period.

Wrong

Pressure, temps and more importantly the type of tire compound!

Some compounds do well in the mid 50's temps other get greasy and sloppy in hot temps...

Lol.

I was speaking from experience not a keyboard.

Tires or Talent. That's all

Ask any winning teams crew what data they care about for times position and ultimately wins. Temps and pressures define when the tire is ready and optimal. Whatever it's compound or purpose.

Everyone knows there is a Magic 'sweet spot' desired pressure @ temperature. Say it's "36" "hot " for sake of example.

Define the track term: 'marbles' for me ...

The Choosey begger · 11-29-2017, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Brake_Late

Lol.

I was speaking from experience not a keyboard.

Tires or Talent. That's all

Ask any winning teams crew what data they care about for times position and ultimately wins. Temps and pressures define when the tire is ready and optimal. Whatever it's compound or purpose.

Everyone knows there is a Magic 'sweet spot' desired pressure @ temperature. Say it's "36" "hot " for sake of example.

Define the track term: 'marbles' for me ...

F1 teams keep track of the type of compounds they run since they also affect tire temps and pressure.

The softer compound tires on the GTS have an advantage on a launch that's why people use drag radials for better 60 ft

dmboone25 · 11-29-2017, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Snappy Phoenix

true and certainly not worth the double the price tag on the M4 GTS for me at least. The Competition M4 is as far as I'd like to pay for a car otherwise I'd be in the Porsche category.

Porsche is certainly the way to go at the GTS (over)priced levels.

Ben Overlake · 11-29-2017, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by dmboone25

Porsche is certainly the way to go at the GTS (over)priced levels.

Agreed - at this six figure price class, I’d simply get the other GTS from Stuttgart.

Chassis unburdened by commuter car underpinnings. Superior mechanical grip. Built from ground up to be pure sports car.

A 2018 ZCP is a great value at <$90k.

scrammer · 11-29-2017, 08:58 PM

I am not convinced that his driving performance was worthy of any sort of donut ...

Ben Overlake · 11-30-2017, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by scrammer

I am not convinced that his driving performance was worthy of any sort of donut ...

live a little

Zulu Saffa · 12-01-2017, 03:43 PM

Completed 2 M Track days and drove the M3/4 standard and CP. Amazing how different the CP performs on track. Really phenomenal experience.

Regardless, still found myself wanting to drive my e92 M3 home.

Brake_Late · 12-03-2017, 03:38 PM

#battle

uniqueMR · 12-10-2017, 08:18 PM

All M cars need all wheel drive. Period. Cannot wait for F90 M5...

97supratt · 12-11-2017, 10:35 AM

The M4 gts is not made to drag race. Hahhaa

jmg · 12-11-2017, 02:19 PM

They need multiple runs for this to mean anything. Still, drag races aren't what the GTS is for.

Brake_Late · 12-11-2017, 02:44 PM

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