OBD unlock and bootmod3

[lukeiswright]

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[Flbmwm3]

Can we get pricing posted? I'm just not sure if it will be cheaper because you don't have to bench flash now.

[TurboSid]

PM or Post pricing please.

[jstnstr]

Originally Posted by proTUNING Freaks

Everyone's doing it!

OBD unlock is in testing and we'll have more details to share soon. Short answer is anyone looking to go the OBD unlock route instead of bench flash will be able to do so at home or at any of our supporting dealer locations.

Unlocking over OBD does not perform a full readout like unlocking on bench does. Currently the only way to fully restore any given DME back to full stock software including flash counters is still via open/bench flash and for that reason we'll be offering both options still to end users depending on their needs.

There are a few more cool features on the horizon very soon but we felt this one needed to be announced first.

Any update on timing of the OBD release? Or what the new features may be? Will it be compatible with the Agent Device and app that you have now or will there be something new?

[BoxKing]

Originally Posted by jstnstr

Any update on timing of the OBD release? Or what the new features may be? Will it be compatible with the Agent Device and app that you have now or will there be something new?

Plus 1 to the above. Let's get this thread back on track.

[Halim@HCP]

Originally Posted by aboulfad

Interesting. How different is that from using BMWs psdZdata to recover a bricked DME (bootloader/program/data segments), putting aside the counters, tamper,... stuff ?

Given that tuners may NOT keep a record of the I-step for each vehicle and their corresponding DME firmware versions, a full DME readout will aid in recovery but is NOT necessary, right ? Every BMW psdZdata release has the firmware for every ECU out there, of course it may not map to the exact version of that car, but if tuners use the latest, then that car will get the latest and that owner will be happy

So in the end, who cares about full DME readout, given that warranty concerns shouldn't be there for a tuned car and its owner? It seems that that is the only advantage of a full DME readout, convenience for both tuner/owner and maybe restoring logged data (counters,...) !

You cannot reset flash counter with e-sys for instance.
Psdzdata does not have a "full backup" back means you kinda take a print of everything before doing anything. You cannot do that, yes you have the psdzdata, but on the other hand you also get those parts with the OBD flasher.

[aboulfad]

Originally Posted by Halim@HCP

You cannot reset flash counter with e-sys for instance.
Psdzdata does not have a "full backup" back means you kinda take a print of everything before doing anything. You cannot do that, yes you have the psdzdata, but on the other hand you also get those parts with the OBD flasher.

Thanks, it is well understood what psdZdata contains, the point being discussed is that a full readout is NOT required to bring a car back to stock software.
We need to make a distinction between “stock software” and “stock DME/TC1797 state” pre-tune, the latter containing runtime dynamic data being generated and logged by the car while the software is static and does not change and can be restored from psdZdata.

[chewbakam4]

You could flash back to stock tune for ages with bm3 simce itbwas released. Its not that. Its that you can’t reset flash counters and other data in the dme without using your original readout. OBD unlocks don’t do a full read out backup.

[aboulfad]

Yes, that point is well understood, and that is one clear advantage to doing a FULL readout, but then whats the benefit given no one knows for sure what detection schemes BMW uses to identify a "tune" was used.

[BuLoOoSki]

Originally Posted by aboulfad

Yes, that point is well understood, and that is one clear advantage to doing a FULL readout, but then whats the benefit given no one knows for sure what detection schemes BMW uses to identify a "tune" was used.

+1

[m4journey]

Protuning freak, any updates yet?
I'd like to rather have bm3 if you can incorporate obd2 unlock if that's possible?

[aboulfad]

Let's hope for those that are interested in getting BM3, that incorporating the OBD unlock isn't a "2 weeks" job the BM3 platform, with its logging capabilities, map editor,... is the most appealing and richest solution if someone wants to learn and apply tunes, so Maximus what's happening?

[BuLoOoSki]

Originally Posted by aboulfad

Let's hope for those that are interested in getting BM3, that incorporating the OBD unlock isn't a "2 weeks" job the BM3 platform, with its logging capabilities, map editor,... is the most appealing and richest solution if someone wants to learn and apply tunes, so Maximus what's happening?

It'll be two weeks

[jstnstr]

For any info? I'm pretty much all in for bootmod3 here. The wait is kind of killing me. Need to hear the burbles with my new exhaust...

[Vectors2final]

Originally Posted by Vectors2final

What tables are missing and what does that change/effect in regards to tuning?

Posterity.

[Vectors2final]

Originally Posted by AllRoadPerformance

Do you use that word in regular conversations as much as you do on the forums?

Depending on the situation, yes.


It's usually when someone makes an ass of themselves, or something to that effect.

I know they're busy, but I feel as if they should have waited to post if they couldn't answer most of the questions with an announcement.

[jstnstr]

Originally Posted by Vectors2final

Depending on the situation, yes.


It's usually when someone makes an ass of themselves, or something to that effect.

I know they're busy, but I feel as if they should have waited to post if they couldn't answer most of the questions with an announcement.

proTUNING Freaks It would be sweet to get just a liiiittle more info, teasers of features, to help us wait to give you our money

[swifty]

Any chance BM3 will offer original CS or ZCP file instead of stage 1 like BPM is offering.

[proTUNING Freaks]

Hey guys, really sorry for lack of updates here as most of our staff is away until Jan. 2nd and we're trying our best given the holidays.

BM3 OBD unlock is coming very soon. While away on non-stop 15 hour flights we've managed to kill lots of time by expanding our DME Read feature that's part of the Diagnostics screen. It hasn't yet been pushed out as we don't want to break something unexpectedly until we're fully staffed again come week of Jan. 2nd. If you've followed our updates through the initial BM3 release back in late 2015 early 2016 you'd know that given how most of this work reverse engineering, sometimes days go by without making much progress, and then, in just a few hours or even a few minutes at times, a glimpse of a solution shows itself which ends up unfolding itself into a new solution/feature or even a change to the approach on how something is done so it could be improved upon.

Current tools/cables released that have OBD unlock support already such as Magic Motorsports, Frieling (many vendors that announced OBD unlock on this forum use this tool provider), CMD, can produce full 4MB readout files that can be used to activate and run with BM3. BM3's DME read feature that has been expanded recently will provide those already unlocked by some tuner out there (regardless of method) an easy way to activate without pulling the DME again as well which will make it super easy to get on board with it, get custom tuned and use anything in BM3 you'd like.

More to follow very soon...

[F3IGHTY]

Originally Posted by proTUNING Freaks

Hey guys, really sorry for lack of updates here as most of our staff is away until Jan. 2nd and we're trying our best given the holidays.

BM3 OBD unlock is coming very soon. While away on non-stop 15 hour flights we've managed to kill lots of time by expanding our DME Read feature that's part of the Diagnostics screen. It hasn't yet been pushed out as we don't want to break something unexpectedly until we're fully staffed again come week of Jan. 2nd. If you've followed our updates through the initial BM3 release back in late 2015 early 2016 you'd know that given how most of this work reverse engineering, sometimes days go by without making much progress, and then, in just a few hours or even a few minutes at times, a glimpse of a solution shows itself which ends up unfolding itself into a new solution/feature or even a change to the approach on how something is done so it could be improved upon.

Current tools/cables released that have OBD unlock support already such as Magic Motorsports, Frieling (many vendors that announced OBD unlock on this forum use this tool provider), CMD, can produce full 4MB readout files that can be used to activate and run with BM3. BM3's DME read feature that has been expanded recently will provide those already unlocked by some tuner out there (regardless of method) an easy way to activate without pulling the DME again as well which will make it super easy to get on board with it, get custom tuned and use anything in BM3 you'd like.

More to follow very soon...

[Mountain_Commando]

So I'm assuming that special OBD adapter is needed, the one that costs 1900 euros at magicmotorsports?

So either the end consumer buys that adapter, or a tuning shop buys one...but flashing the f-series without that adapter isn't possible?

[jstnstr]

@proTUNING Freaks thank you! Can't wait.