Competition Package Reviews

[z335is]

Originally Posted by Mr Friese

I was told an announcement is coming in the next 30-60 days and they will be available by summer. Curious as to what some of the forum insiders have heard on this though.

Hmm...is there a list of what pieces will be available for retrofit?

I imagine that CP owners would not be happy if their stuff can be retrofitted from BMW, it would kill their exclusivity

[Bluex]

Originally Posted by z335is

Hmm...is there a list of what pieces will be available for retrofit?

I imagine that CP owners would not be happy if their stuff can be retrofitted from BMW, it would kill their exclusivity

I can't imagine why it would bother them....those that order the ZCP package are purely doing so due to the performance gains, not for exclusivity, right?

[devilbones]

Originally Posted by Powaup

yea seriously, at least it's not as bad as the Motoman reviewer that repeatedly said that the M2 was 230 lbs lighter than the M4

That was without him in it.

[CanAutM3]

Originally Posted by z335is

Hmm...is there a list of what pieces will be available for retrofit?

I imagine that CP owners would not be happy if their stuff can be retrofitted from BMW, it would kill their exclusivity

If the summed costs of the individual components to upgrade a base M4 to CP level tallies a number significantly higher than the $5500 cost of the CP, the CP owners should be happy they got a good deal .

[dgp]

Originally Posted by CanAutM3

If the summed costs of the individual components to upgrade a base M4 to CP level tallies a number significantly higher than the $5500 cost of the CP, the CP owners should be happy they got a good deal .

BMW will not give the same upgrade components as a standalone as they never have (look at current M5/6 CP and past CP models). If they would start here, they would also have to start for M5/6 base which are closer to the end life of cycle.

[z335is]

Originally Posted by CanAutM3

If the summed costs of the individual components to upgrade a base M4 to CP level tallies a number significantly higher than the $5500 cost of the CP, the CP owners should be happy they got a good deal .

You're probably right, I was just being facetious. I'm looking forward to the cost breakdown for the retrofit though. Should be interesting.

[CanAutM3]

Originally Posted by dgp

BMW will not give the same upgrade components as a standalone as they never have (look at current M5/6 CP and past CP models). If they would start here, they would also have to start for M5/6 base which are closer to the end life of cycle.

I am not saying they will. As you stated, they have not in the past.

But it is not impossible that they would though. For instance, anyone could go and buy a CP exhaust at BMW dealer parts counter.

[Mr Friese]

Originally Posted by dgp

BMW will not give the same upgrade components as a standalone as they never have (look at current M5/6 CP and past CP models). If they would start here, they would also have to start for M5/6 base which are closer to the end life of cycle.

Well they are absolutely coming

No one thought that BMW would ever offer coilovers either....

[Stevens21234]

Originally Posted by dgp

BMW will not give the same upgrade components as a standalone as they never have (look at current M5/6 CP and past CP models). If they would start here, they would also have to start for M5/6 base which are closer to the end life of cycle.

BMW also never offered suspension upgrades which they are doing for the first time via the M-performance coil overs. They should and can deviate from status quo. They don't have to retroactively offer this for all M models, just what they see has the most ROI (which is the F8X platform based on sales)

[dgp]

Originally Posted by Stevens21234

BMW also never offered suspension upgrades which they are doing for the first time via the M-performance coil overs. They should and can deviate from status quo. They don't have to retroactively offer this for all M models, just what they see has the most ROI (which is the F8X platform based on sales)

Time will tell. Also suspension upgrades is different than power upgrades.

[Vocans]

Does anyone have any inside info on when the embargo for the press will be lifted? My M3 entered production today so I'm stuck with ZCP whether I like it or not but I'd love to see a few more reviews.

[TRZ06]

Originally Posted by Stevens21234

BMW also never offered suspension upgrades which they are doing for the first time via the M-performance coil overs. They should and can deviate from status quo. They don't have to retroactively offer this for all M models, just what they see has the most ROI (which is the F8X platform based on sales)

I think that is because they know they blotched the tuning on the suspension.

If you have any first hand experience of most of the other performance cars out there now (especially those that are using the Magnetic shock technology), you will know that by today's current standards BMW suspension is not on par.

If your only knowledge is previous M car, then yes its better than the old M's but compared to its competition, its not very good.

[Tflong24]

Originally Posted by Vocans

Does anyone have any inside info on when the embargo for the press will be lifted? My M3 entered production today so I'm stuck with ZCP whether I like it or not but I'd love to see a few more reviews.

I am curious, I see a lot of people stating their M3/4 is in production with ZCP package, but I thought production of ZCP equipped cars wasn't starting until March 1. I had the impression you could order now, but no ZCP optioned cars would start being built until March 1??

[Vocans]

Originally Posted by Tflong24

I am curious, I see a lot of people stating their M3/4 is in production with ZCP package, but I thought production of ZCP equipped cars wasn't starting until March 1. I had the impression you could order now, but no ZCP optioned cars would start being built until March 1??

Yeah I'm not sure what to say other than that I haven't heard of any ZCP-optioned cars being finished prior to March 1. This is my first BMW so I'm not sure how BMW normally works for the start of production of new models/packages, but perhaps they meant completion in march rather than start of production.

[nicknaz]

Originally Posted by Stevens21234

BMW also never offered suspension upgrades which they are doing for the first time via the M-performance coil overs.

What does it matter what BMW offers?

Just get the aftermarket coilover system of your choice and spend the $ and time dialing it, along with wider wheels/tires

[Stevens21234]

Originally Posted by nicknaz

What does it matter what BMW offers?

Just get the aftermarket coilover system of your choice and spend the $ and time dialing it, along with wider wheels/tires

Warranty. And why do you think I'm a proponent of them based on my singular statement? I'm offering it as a counterargument that BMW might go against status quo.

[Stevens21234]

Originally Posted by dgp

Time will tell. Also suspension upgrades is different than power upgrades.

Power upgrades are available by dealer for the 335i turbos via software. Suspension upgrades are far more complex - especially relative to a miniscule 19hp bump.

[damnitBobby]

After seeing it in person, the ZCP doesn't look bad. I think it's a good value for people that won't be modifying their car once they get it.

Personally I would pass on the ZCP and get a scantly optioned M4. Then spend the saved money on the M-performance HAS, BBS/Volk wheels, and an M-performance exhaust.

The last thing the M4 needs is more power.

[dgp]

Originally Posted by Stevens21234

Power upgrades are available by dealer for the 335i turbos via software. Suspension upgrades are far more complex - especially relative to a miniscule 19hp bump.

No power upgrades are available on any M cars outside CP. 335 is not comparable

[Stevens21234]

Originally Posted by dgp

No power upgrades are available on any M cars outside CP. 335 is not comparable

Both would be turbo charged cars with a software tune, so yes, it's quite comparable despite one being "M". I guess we'll both be surprised in a few months.

Aftermarket tuners do it all the time - it's not ground breaking work. BMW is also about to come out with 2 more M4 variants - something else unprecedented.

The reason they might not have done it for previous models is due to the market return on investment. F8X simply has more purchasers relative to the M5/M6.

[visi107]

Originally Posted by Stevens21234

BMW is also about to come out with 2 more M4 variants - something else unprecedented.

Two more M4 variants?? What are they?

[W///]

Originally Posted by damnitBobby

After seeing it in person, the ZCP doesn't look bad. I think it's a good value for people that won't be modifying their car once they get it.

Personally I would pass on the ZCP and get a scantly optioned M4. Then spend the saved money on the M-performance HAS, BBS/Volk wheels, and an M-performance exhaust.

The last thing the M4 needs is more power.

That's what I'm leaning towards as well, but luckily, I'll have plenty of time to test drive one and see more reviews.

If I can achieve similar results, I'd personally rather go with my own mods of choice, such as MP HAS, BBS and AA exhaust.

Originally Posted by visi107

Two more M4 variants?? What are they?

One is the M4 CS (Clubsport) and the other rumor is the CSL. Not sure how legit the CSL is though.