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They are so similar... i had to really look hard but you're right. Turns out you are more "detail-oriented" than me then But i must say, if one really has to look that hard to notice the details on the edges then still, the F80 & F30 bear a stronger resemblance (not a bad thing) than the previous E90 front ends, which were more noticeably different. Interesting observations. I find that pretty cool that they stuck with that frankenstein concept.
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I don't read much on here besides the m3/5 forums so my sample size is small, but that's the best f30 I've seen. Still love those style rims or variations of them
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That white one looks the business. I think im goin coupe dct this time. Then i have best of all four worlds. Sedan manual coupe dct. Sweet. I think its the angle of the pics. In real life it is easier to see. |
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Both Beautiful !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Would be a decent combo. Excuse my fanboyism but you should also consider a P-Car in lieu of the M4 if you already have the sedan. Would be an awesome Jeckyl & Hyde garage.
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I always hated how central the exhaust was located on my E90 M3, but for some reason, it works better for the E46 M3 and F8x M3 platform as it accentuates the width of the car more because those generations have instantly-recognizes wider fenders (it's a little too subtle on the E9X platform IMHO).
Also, that F30 is nicely modified and looks great, kudo's to the owner of that F30!
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yeah I am also definitely considering a porsche (Cayman S, 991 S) but I don't know - $500 oil changes?! I know when I can get a GT3 I'm definitely going pcar but the other cars just make me not want it THAT much. I'm perfectly happy with bmw ///M cars.
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its a pretty easy DIY, and I am definitely not an above average mechanic. I would take a 991s or gt3 over the m3/4, but none of the other models.
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i would do that too but Porsche says that would kill your warranty. i feel like they would be a little more strict on that as well....(and I agree I still can't get over a cayman or base 991)....I think the Macan might be my first pcar (for my wife)....
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On the F30, would the aero kit look better painted in body color?
It looks like the rear spoiler is painted
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What suspension did you finally decide to go with here? I have H&R Super Sports on the way but trying to see what others are doing...
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I just lost a good entry; somehow I closed the window while drafting it. The members seeing both cars as similar are correct. There are two reasons for it. First, Florian Nissl. One cannot discuss looks without mentioning him, no more than one should comment on the iPhone looks while not knowing Jonny Ive (he stars at any launch, usually a video). Florian Nissl designed the M3 and M4, and was responsible for the base M design. The F30 F32 F80 designs were approved 1-3 years before launch. BMW reserved itself a cushion window to complete the M look. Initially, then the 335 F3- came out, Top Gear gave it 2 points less!!! For looks only. That hideous. Secretly, BMW and Nissl were working on the M Performance Parts, and anyone can find those videos. When cameras go speak to Nissl, mock-ups are covered, but wall sketches point out the future several versions ahead. Whatever the frames look like- generally similar- the M is the trademark. The #1 design went to the M series, and #2 to M performance. Either case, both the frames and the design were a departure from the E9x series. Florian started in 2006 so he only worked on the new lines, where retaining certain corporate guidelines in mind, the Series division, F vs M etc. Second, it is the BMW head design and approval board that retained the base F30, 32, 80 looks. They shared a common base, and a discriminatory incrementally better looking refinement as one moves up the scale. So the higher the #, the more “masculine” “athletic” and “exclusive” the look. These are BMW words I heard in their documentaries. No matter, the F30 is a terrific design, and the M Sport version comes from the exact same hand that designed, simultaneously, the M3/4 lines, thus sharing the similarities the post members noticed. Fact. At its base, the F30 M Performance is a more masculine, athletic and exclusive look than previous models including older M series. Nissl is that good. I do not like the black plastic side skirt BUT it is a terrific winter slush protector, I found out, deflecting wheel debris. I prefer the M3 lines, obviously, but I also appreciate the terrific look and effort that went into the F30 M Sport PE Laguna Seca. That aside, mine turned out twice as much as the base 335i. From the 20” wheels to the 18” Black I had painted for winter, after 9 months of ownership I can attest to the following: just about no one can tell them apart if seeing mine as standalone, and not without a careful look. The F30 Laguna Seca is an incredible illusion. From BMW tech and sales people, when the car moves or pulls in, from 20 feet or further, the blue tells them, mentally, that it is an M3. Once the mental bias is set, hard to undo. Google “Optical Illusions.” Even veteran BMW salespeople have to look closer to realize the hood bulge is missing, the vents, and, from behind, 2 not 4 exhausts. Since there are no M3 or 4s in blue anywhere around the Ottawa dealerships (if they were, they would be instantly sold), Nissl’s F30 Blue M Performance line is an interesting ‘Trompe l’oeil.” One of my right side profile pics, check the hood. The quality of the Suntek film covering the paint (the whole front, no visible lines) is such that the hood looks almos tlike bulging a bit. Unless seeing the real M3 next to it, most people confuse mine for the other one. On a daily basis I get asked just one question “Is this an M3?” or “Is this an M?” Guys or girls. Quite tiring having to answer- especially a crowd near a classy business/restaurant entrance so just came up with one reply that saves me breath: “What do you think?” Take a closer look. Come for a ride - ladies;" the visual confusion is such that they cannot tell. Last edited by Musashi; 01-09-2015 at 05:12 AM.. |
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