Michelin Pilot Sport 4S

skalberti · 03-03-2017, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by CPT Smuggs

That's a very large tire compared to your front! What wheels are you putting those on? Looking forward to pics installed. I ordered a set of MP4S directly from Discount Tire yesterday, they should be here next week!

That's the rear tire, the first tire I unwrapped. Running 20X9.5 265/30/20 up front and 20X11 295/30/20 in the rear.

dmk08 · 03-03-2017, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by skalberti

Finally got my MP4S's today. I wanted to put them next to my PSS to see what differences there was in the tread design other than the obvious side wall design. There are several changes in the tread pattern as well as tread design placement. Here's a side by side pic with the inside outside orientations matched.

You have tires and no wheels. I have wheels and no tires.

skalberti · 03-03-2017, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by dmk08

You have tires and no wheels. I have wheels and no tires.

The good news is, you'll have your tires before I have my wheels.

dmk08 · 03-03-2017, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by skalberti

The good news is, you'll have your tires before I have my wheels.

Im not really sure about that at this point.

Kabrich · 03-03-2017, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Billj747

According to the guys at Conti, the SportContact 6 for USA market is primarily OE fitments, while in Europe and most of the rest of the world, the Sportcontact 6 is used for both OE and replacement.

The tread on the 2 are nothing alike.

Kabrich · 03-04-2017, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by dmk08

Im not really sure about that at this point.

Though not shown on Discount Tire site, have you called them or one of the Atlanta Locations, as @cpt smuggs says he purchased his through Discount.

I would also suggest that if your buddy who owns Butler Tires is important enough to be brought out to the Palm Springs Swagfest/ Event, he has the juice to call his Michelin Rep and they will find him a pair as a favor.

dmk08 · 03-04-2017, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Kabrich

Though not shown on Discount Tire site, have you called them or one of the Atlanta Locations, as @cpt smuggs says he purchased his through Discount.

I would also suggest that if your buddy who owns Butler Tires is important enough to be brought out to the Palm Springs Swagfest/ Event, he has the juice to call his Michelin Rep and they will find him a pair as a favor.

I called discount they are checking.

Butler is working hard to get me some.

Billj747 · 03-04-2017, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Kabrich

The tread on the 2 are nothing alike.

That's because they are two different model tires.

Continental does not offer the SC6 as a replacement tire in the US, so there's not the availability of a variety of sizes that Europe has. The main role of a replacement tire in the US is the ExtremeContact Sport, while the SC6 is only available in OEM model-specific replacement sizes... in the US.

skalberti · 03-04-2017, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Kabrich

The tread on the 2 are nothing alike.

When you compare the Conti 6 and the Extreme Contact Sport on the Conti website, both tires score equal except Continental says the Extreme Contact Sport has better handling and mileage. Both tires are equal on fuel, traction and quiet ride. Now that's the manufacturer saying that about their own tires, not an independent tester.

Kabrich · 03-05-2017, 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by skalberti

When you compare the Conti 6 and the Extreme Contact Sport on the Conti website, both tires score equal except Continental says the Extreme Contact Sport has better handling and mileage. Both tires are equal on fuel, traction and quiet ride. Now that's the manufacturer saying that about their own tires, not an independent tester.

Link?

Google and/myself cannot find that from continental

Kabrich · 03-05-2017, 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by skalberti

The good news is, you'll have your tires before I have my wheels.

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Originally Posted by dmk08

Im not really sure about that at this point.

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Originally Posted by dmk08

I called discount they are checking.

Butler is working hard to get me some.

Butler should be able to pull a favor from Michelin based on your previous posts on your relationship with the Owner.

m4282 · 03-05-2017, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Kabrich

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Originally Posted by skalberti

The good news is, you'll have your tires before I have my wheels.

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Originally Posted by dmk08

Im not really sure about that at this point.

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Originally Posted by dmk08

I called discount they are checking.

Butler is working hard to get me some.

Butler should be able to pull a favor from Michelin based on your previous posts on your relationship with the Owner.

mercedesc63 · 03-05-2017, 09:25 AM

lol at the people in here ordering PS4S as replacement with the hopes it's so much better than the MPSS.

Guys let's finish our MPSS slowly and then consider a PS4S and let's not compare the 285s to the star spec 295s especially. There's not enough/comparable tread size on the 285s and the rubber is still nearly the same.

Still to this day I think the PS2s are still a really good tire almost the same as the MPSS/PS4S. Just my .02 .

Billj747 · 03-05-2017, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by mercedesc63

lol at the people in here ordering PS4S as replacement with the hopes it's so much better than the MPSS.

Guys let's finish our MPSS slowly and then consider a PS4S and let's not compare the 285s to the star spec 295s especially. There's not enough/comparable tread size on the 285s and the rubber is still nearly the same.

Still to this day I think the PS2s are still a really good tire almost the same as the MPSS/PS4S. Just my .02 .

PSS was a big jump from the PS2 in terms of tire construction, technology, weight (less), price (less), and performance. The jump to PS4S is a lot in wet weather and economy. Not much in terms of dry grip.

skalberti · 03-05-2017, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Kabrich

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Originally Posted by skalberti

When you compare the Conti 6 and the Extreme Contact Sport on the Conti website, both tires score equal except Continental says the Extreme Contact Sport has better handling and mileage. Both tires are equal on fuel, traction and quiet ride. Now that's the manufacturer saying that about their own tires, not an independent tester.

Link?

Funny in you thread you claim UTGQ means nothing, but use it in this thread...lol.

Reread my posts. I've never said anything about UTGQ.

Go to http://www.continentaltire.com

Select performance tires then click the + next to the two tires you want to compare. Do this on a PC, the mobile version doesn't allow you to compare on their website.

Billj747 · 03-05-2017, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by skalberti

Reread my posts. I've never said anything about UTGQ.

Go to http://www.continentaltire.com

Select performance tires then click the + next to the two tires you want to compare. Do this on a PC, the mobile version doesn't allow you to compare on their website.

I think he's confusing you and me, while suffering from poor reading comprehension and just being 'out there'

Kabrich · 03-05-2017, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by skalberti

Reread my posts. I've never said anything about UTGQ.

Go to http://www.continentaltire.com

Select performance tires then click the + next to the two tires you want to compare. Do this on a PC, the mobile version doesn't allow you to compare on their website.

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Originally Posted by Billj747

I think he's confusing you and me, while suffering from poor reading comprehension and just being 'out there'

Not poor reading skills. Replying at 2AM. Apologies to @skalberti

Better than @Billj747 statements that his website as a reference...that Google cannot even find otherwise.

Billj747 · 03-05-2017, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Kabrich

Not poor reading skills. Replying in middle of night.

Better than your statements that you use your website as a reference...that Google cannot even find otherwise.

Man you're dense -and further validates your lack of reading comprehension.

dmk08 · 03-05-2017, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by mercedesc63

lol at the people in here ordering PS4S as replacement with the hopes it's so much better than the MPSS.

Guys let's finish our MPSS slowly and then consider a PS4S and let's not compare the 285s to the star spec 295s especially. There's not enough/comparable tread size on the 285s and the rubber is still nearly the same.

Still to this day I think the PS2s are still a really good tire almost the same as the MPSS/PS4S. Just my .02 .

I think most of us in here who have ordered got new wheels which require bigger tires. Its not just to swap out.

CanAutM3 · 03-05-2017, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by mercedesc63

Still to this day I think the PS2s are still a really good tire almost the same as the MPSS/PS4S. Just my .02 .

I will have to disagree with you here. Going from PS2 to PSS on my E92 made a rather significant difference. I saw equally big leaps going from the original PS to the PS2 and then from the PS2 to the PSS. I am eager to find out if the PS4S will provide as great of a leap.

Dippydo · 03-05-2017, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by dmk08

I think most of us in here who have ordered got new wheels which require bigger tires. Its not just to swap out.

And honestly I would not mind getting the PSS but they are going to discontinue them shortly so no point in buying PSS now only to have to replace the rears well before the front need to be changed avoiding having to have mismatched tires or wasting money on replacing the fronts when not needed..

M-Pilot · 03-06-2017, 12:17 AM

Although my fronts are still pretty good shape, I worn out my rears in 9K miles (stock ZCP sizes). I was willing to replace all 4 with PS4S but like many of you experienced, the dates kept pushed back. I couldn't wait any longer so I ordered 295/30/20 Star spec PSS just for my rears. Hopefully my next set wil be PS4S

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