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Individual paint is a scam, BMW should offer more standard colors! | 139 | 54.51% | |
Individual paint FTW, I need 50 shades of grey! | 116 | 45.49% | |
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02-15-2018, 11:17 AM | #23 |
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OP, I agree with you it is a bit nutz, but remember the choice is yours, not theirs. They just give you the option(s) to choose poorly.
If you have money to burn, or you are willing to pay, it's a non-issue. I.E. don't be mad people are getting soaked, they chose to accept the soaking. Looking at the aforementioned responses people are bothered by the manner in which the costs are manipulated. "Creepers are going to creep" and, well you get the idea...companies are going to profit how they see fit. The good news is anyone can get a base model and modify the car at their leisure. Getting a $66,500 base model in lieu of the $85k car on the lot is a lot of mods, granted not OEM, but it will certainly be individual. Luckily for me, I really did like the SSII, the lines pop and the car is just plain awesome.
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I think I read someone said gotta pay to play. Well BMW got you on that. Rather or not they are worth it is another subject but certainly not to me. |
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Yes it would better if we could choose any BMW colour for our M car but then we also expect a 10k discount in the UK and they have to make money somewhere, how much money they make is ultimately up to the consumer and the choices they make.
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02-15-2018, 11:31 AM | #26 |
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All the exteriors parts are painted by the parts suppliers , it’s not just the body. Door handles, mirrors, etc all come from suppliers, not painted at factory. That all has to be coordinated on special colors. It’s actually amazing given the logistics that they do it.
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02-15-2018, 11:33 AM | #27 | |
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It’s not about being special. It’s about getting a color you enjoy. It adds no value to the car, just to the owner. |
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02-15-2018, 11:42 AM | #28 |
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Definitely Shady IMO. Only because I think the standard colors for the M3/M4 are lacking.
-No traditional blue. Blue is my favorite color on a car but not baby blue. Just not my bag. -No traditional red. I happen to love SO but I know many people who wanted a standard red. -Austin Yellow -No lighter grey. I actually like Mineral Grey (owned it) but it hides a lot of the cars accents |
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02-15-2018, 11:54 AM | #29 |
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I'm on the same page as those saying some of the individual colors are not special and BMW is simply trying to squeeze the consumer for more money by offering a limited number of basic colors.
At the end of the day, it is up to the consumer to determine if paying $5k for the paint color they want is worth it (just like the hot topic re: whether or not the Comp pack is worth the $$$). I didn't even consider going individual paint because it was not worth it to me (but did spec the car with the Comp pack bc I was willing to pay extra for what some here deem unworthy/a ripoff). Either way, BMW got an extra $5k out of my pocket. |
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02-15-2018, 01:07 PM | #32 | |
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Its the same as every other car company. Go to the Porsche 911 page, just 7 colors. Mostly whites and blacks and greys. Anything else is extra. Go to the Lexus LC page, same thing. This is how its always been, manufacturers change their set of colors every year. When new gen Camaro first came out they had a cool blue/teal color, but it was gone the next year. BMW has had different colors over different generations. These are the ones for F8x series, next gen we will probably see a whole new set. Look at the M2 which has a blue much nicer than the Yas Marina. Its just nice you have an option as opposed to other manufactures where you don't. Individual just means it not a standard color exterior or interior, not that its any better or has any status, it does not. Just customized to an owners liking. |
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What I disagree with is that BMW (at least in Canada) limits buyer's standard color selections within the same model based on the package selected. From very recent experience I am talking about F15 X5. I accept that to get M Sport specific color (like Carbon Black), you have to buy M Sport package and this unlocks the access to M Sport specific colors. That is marketing, got it. But why they will not allow us to get some of the standard X5 colors (like Imperial Blue) in connection with M Sport package, that I do not understand. It might be different in US, but in Canada, if you want to order blue X5 35i with M Sport, you have to go through the Individual program. Unless you consider Carbon Black as a blue color. It is wrong. I get that there is M aero kit and extended fender flares on M Sport body, compare to base model, but it is not like M Sport X5 is produced on different production lines in the factory than let's say Luxury Line. To charge premium for Imperial Blue X5 35i M Sport over Imperial Blue X5 35i is a shady practice in my opinion. Not that I think that anyone would like Imperial Blue that much to go trough with it... |
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02-15-2018, 01:19 PM | #34 | |
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I’m also seeing four “special” colors and those are $3,150, to include Miami Blue and Lava Orange. Seems like the 911 has way more choices than the F8x, before having to go custom, which is $6K+.
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The m has all those basic colors , just not in shades you may like I think it’s wrong to call something shady, that makes it sound illegal or immoral. It’s not. Plus Porsche cost a lot more so you are still paying for it . Maybe even more actually when you compare similar options between an M and comparible model Porsche. Sorry just don’t see it as shady. |
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Shady is sneakily replacing the carbon fiber drive shaft with a steel one, while claiming nothing will be impacted. I wouldn't call a 5k paint to sample paint job as shady....
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02-15-2018, 04:04 PM | #38 |
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I agree that it's a little shady. Mini, which is owned by BMW, offers 12 colors on Mini Cooper. Why can't BMW do the same on the M3/M4?
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02-16-2018, 03:26 AM | #40 |
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It’s all about automation and batches dude. Do a tour of the Munich factory sometime, they’ll even go into the one-off procedures for the individual process. IIRC, they were sprayed by actual humans instead of robots (it makes sense but my memory is foggy)
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02-16-2018, 04:24 AM | #41 |
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YouTube “bmw individual paint”. It looks like humans and automation paints the car. Like i said, bs gimmick.
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I see this manipulation manifested when Individual cars go up for sale. How many sale threads do you see when the owner tries to recoup the cost of Individual features with the usual buzz words. It's hilarious to see ad descriptions like "Rare, 1 of 1!" or "First ever ordered in US!"... as if it raises the value of the car based on anything more than false exclusivity and emotion, likely not to be reciprocated by a prospective buyer. Perhaps when the model run is complete and can no longer be ordered with Individual features, some of the real unique combos will command higher resale prices. However, from what I've seen on this site, those truly "Individual" cars are the exception and not the norm. Plus, by then you are battling depreciation... the F8x, while a great car, is not looking to be a "classic" in the M world, and I don't think custom colors that are really not that unique will help much at resale.
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02-16-2018, 05:41 AM | #43 |
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When you think of it, anything other than white is extra $ on an M3/4.
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