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      01-29-2014, 11:43 AM   #23
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I like em wide, oh wait wrong forums. I think the new M3 is going to look even more aggressive with a few cosmetic changes such as wheel offsets and perhaps lowering the car.
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      01-29-2014, 12:31 PM   #24
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I like em wide, oh wait wrong forums. I think the new M3 is going to look even more aggressive with a few cosmetic changes such as wheel offsets and perhaps lowering the car.
Definitely! Once a drop and aggressive wheels start to adorn the new cars, legs will be humped.
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      01-29-2014, 09:39 PM   #25
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Look at the difference in front width, probably to help with front end traction with increased weight. don't know
There is no such thing as front width. It's front track, the width of the spacing between the centerline of the front wheels.

What I notice is the fact that the M3's generally have a wider rear track than front, vs. the M5's which have a wider front track than rear. Look at the F10 M5's differential between front and rear tracks! Wild!
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      01-29-2014, 09:53 PM   #26
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Look at the difference in front width, probably to help with front end traction with increased weight. don't know
There is no such thing as front width. It's front track, the width of the spacing between the centerline of the front wheels.

What I notice is the fact that the M3's generally have a wider rear track than front, vs. the M5's which have a wider front track than rear. Look at the F10 M5's differential between front and rear tracks! Wild!
Sorry, that's what I meant. Front track. And my comment was directed towards F10 M5. It's crazy....
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      04-17-2014, 05:10 PM   #27
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Is wider always absolutely better?

I can see pros and cons for different track setups

Just because the track is wide doesn't mean the car looks better

I prefer the handling of the e9x series over the f3x series

I see a little bit improved turn in and a couple mpg efficiencies

Need to have tangible results from a real drive to come to any real conclusions
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      04-17-2014, 05:11 PM   #28
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I printed a few copies and made my 3 year old a new coloring book. Thank you!
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      04-17-2014, 05:20 PM   #29
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I printed a few copies and made my 3 year old a new coloring book. Thank you!
Oooh great idea!
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      04-17-2014, 05:41 PM   #30
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e46 M3 > all M3's

j/k

Good find!
But wider is better she said
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      04-17-2014, 06:08 PM   #31
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This must be how BMW can fit 2 series into the line up :-)
I believe it was Pontiac that first started a " wider is better" mantra... who would have thunk a defunct American manufacturer mantra would apply to BMW?
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      04-17-2014, 06:22 PM   #32
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LOL, I was wondering why this thread got necrobumped. It is because it made bimmerpost.com's front page!

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      04-17-2014, 06:25 PM   #33
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this should be nominated for post of the year. very insightful. crazy how wide the rear of the F80 is relative to the front compared to the other models (especially the e90). I'm guessing this plays a significant part in the reviews we've seen from the DTM driver who say the rear axle has such great grip.
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      04-17-2014, 06:34 PM   #34
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Wow, it'll be wider then my M5!?

"But Grandma, what wide fenders you have!"

"The better to corner for you, my dear!"
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      04-17-2014, 06:54 PM   #35
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F80 looks good, even in sketches. The thing is just ridiculously photogenic.
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      04-17-2014, 07:16 PM   #37
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Am I the only one to wonder why the M3 has a wider rear track than front, while the M5 has a wider front track than rear?
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      04-17-2014, 07:21 PM   #38
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We seem to be getting wider too.
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      04-17-2014, 07:26 PM   #39
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The size jump from the E9X makes the weight loss achieved more impressive.
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      04-17-2014, 07:45 PM   #40
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I just got my F32. Was pulling into a parking garage tonight, and my car felt like it wasn't going to fit. I was used to pulling my E92 in there and my F32 felt a foot wider.

I will say my F32 handles twice as well as my E92. Amazing car.
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      04-17-2014, 07:54 PM   #41
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Mmmmmmm, wide
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      04-17-2014, 09:03 PM   #42
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Very insightful post. An aggressive offset and a drop. Done.
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      04-18-2014, 01:07 AM   #43
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Yes, cars are getting bigger. The more interesting thing to me is the changes to the track/wheelbase ratio. The F80 is now slightly more "Square" than the previous two generations. The track has grown more than the wheelbase. Why is that?
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