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      10-26-2017, 12:04 PM   #221
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I mentioned that there is another vehicle out there (not roaming or in Camo) with a badge on the rear which has M3 CS on it. I said the car will be called M3 CS based on the badge it currently carries. I did mention that BMW might still go ahead and change that badge between now and when they announce it.

I can only state things based on what I see now. Everything else will be what we call speculation, which is what you say you and a few others are doing.
I am with you ... I know about an car in Frozen Dark Blue II without cammo, but with all exterior gimmicks from the M4 CS and clearly an M3 CS Batch on the trunk.
If you speaks about an different color, then this must mean that there are allready two Cars !?

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      10-26-2017, 12:18 PM   #222
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My conclusion until 3 weeks from now - Have I mentioned yet that I like the front lip on that there Franken-M3? Color seems purrrty too...Just getting it out there...
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It looked a little more composed through that first corner than the Bentley!
Oh good I'm choosing between the M3CS and Bentayga as my next car.
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      10-26-2017, 12:20 PM   #224
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I'm hoping for an M3 CR - "California Roll". Rice on the outside, and all the good bits in the middle.
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      10-26-2017, 12:23 PM   #225
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Somehow, the leaked pictures in the context of the leaked Video act a little staged.
Because of the only possible location of the photographer, this one should actually be seen in the video and also the filmmaker of the video on the last pictures.
In any case, it is impossible that photographer and filmmaker are one person, unless the departure from the gas station took place twice = staging of BMW!
A little staged ::

Yes just a tad, no different to any other release/leak from BMW or any other manufacturer though. Just all part of the release cycle now.
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      10-26-2017, 12:30 PM   #226
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Oh good I'm choosing between the M3CS and Bentayga as my next car.
LOL, stop thinking in straight lines....

It was a joke.
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      10-26-2017, 12:40 PM   #227
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You will have a hard time buying a car in 5 years.
Sadly, I think you're right. But your timeline is a little bit aggressive.

G8x is supposed to still have a manual available. First year is supposed to be MY22. Going through 6 year production run, that's good until MY27.
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Somehow, the leaked pictures in the context of the leaked Video act a little staged.
Because of the only possible location of the photographer, this one should actually be seen in the video and also the filmmaker of the video on the last pictures.
In any case, it is impossible that photographer and filmmaker are one person, unless the departure from the gas station took place twice = staging of BMW!
You are right. Those are 2 different times that the car visited the gas station. Here's why:
1, The drivers are different or wearing different shirts,
2, The point where the indicator (blinkers) are switched on are different between the video and pictures,
3, There is no photographer in the video where there should have been in order to snap the photos we see.

Not sure if it was staged or if the car consumes too much petrol (gas) or if the first visit was with minimal fuel to set the official best lap time with the lightest weight .

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Oh good I'm choosing between the M3CS and Bentayga as my next car.
LOL, stop thinking in straight lines....

It was a joke.
I know man. Who would compare the two anyway. Well maybe on the Versus forum.
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      10-26-2017, 12:57 PM   #230
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Can someone tell me why this thread exists? The F80 is going out of production in the coming year (2018)

Is BMW really gonna put out a "special" model for one calendar year?

I get why the F82 CS is gonna exist. The EOP is 2020.

This is a pipe dream thread
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Can someone tell me why this thread exists? The F80 is going out of production in the coming year (2018)

Is BMW really gonna put out a "special" model for one calendar year?

I get why the F82 CS is gonna exist. The EOP is 2020.

This is a pipe dream thread
So you are speculating that these test mules represent mere R&D exercises? That's fair, but if that's your opinion, why not just say that instead?
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      10-26-2017, 01:24 PM   #232
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      10-26-2017, 01:28 PM   #233
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Can someone tell me why this thread exists? The F80 is going out of production in the coming year (2018)

Is BMW really gonna put out a "special" model for one calendar year?

I get why the F82 CS is gonna exist. The EOP is 2020.

This is a pipe dream thread
Was the same with the E90 M3 CRT!
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      10-26-2017, 01:29 PM   #234
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Can someone tell me why this thread exists? The F80 is going out of production in the coming year (2018)

Is BMW really gonna put out a "special" model for one calendar year?

I get why the F82 CS is gonna exist. The EOP is 2020.

This is a pipe dream thread
I don’t see it as that big of a stretch to be honest - BMW made like 27 special editions of the E9X M cars towards the end of production. BMW will also be able to leverage lessons learned during the M4 CS’ development - so the M3 CS should be “easier” to develop if that makes sense (especially for things like suspension tweaks, software revisions, and engine tune).

I see this an an exercise consistent with a precedent they established before. It will be fun to see if it comes to fruition or not.
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Can someone tell me why this thread exists? The F80 is going out of production in the coming year (2018)

Is BMW really gonna put out a "special" model for one calendar year?

I get why the F82 CS is gonna exist. The EOP is 2020.

This is a pipe dream thread
Actually it is the exact reason why they want to release this one last version before EOP. Squeeze out the last cents they can get from customers. Their primarily targets should be those who are looking to switch rides within the M family instead of prying from the competitors. There are a lot of them out there.

Labeling it CRT would be more likely than CS for the sedan, but how they are going to price it will be crucial since they have so many packages and versions now for the F8x. Base, ZCP, CS, CRT, GTS. All are within 70-120k.
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I agree with you. However, if next gen M3/M4 is going AWD, I have my doubts about the manual transmission.
Have you noticed that none of the G20s we've seen had MT? I'm not claiming we shouldn't expect any MTs yet, but I feel like with just a little bit more evidence I could make that call.
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What was the price of the CRT back in 2013?
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Have you noticed that none of the G20s we've seen had MT? I'm not claiming we shouldn't expect any MTs yet, but I feel like with just a little bit more evidence I could make that call.
Good point.

Still, the take rate for the manual M3/M4 (especially F80) is still pretty high in the US according to the post SickFinga linked to. I wonder what it is for the 330i and 340i? Another possibly relevant observation is, the 5 Series MT died a generation (or maybe even two? I don't know what was available overseas by the end of the E60 run) before the M5 MT did.

I also notice that they still allow you to get an MT with xDrive in the 340i today. That suggests that even if the M3/M4 go AWD (which I am not at all convinced of, yet), the MT could theoretically remain on the table. I agree with SickFinga that the move to AWD would definitely make the whole thing less likely though, simply because its even more permutations to deal with on top of an already more complex drivetrain.
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What was the price of the CRT back in 2013?
Hella Bucks.

I don't remember, but I want to say it was GTS money IIRC. It wasn't sold in the US (neither was the GTS) and was made in tiny numbers, so it wasn't something I committed to memory.
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Idk but I'm guessing it's gonna be a special limited edition and not a regular production as the M4CS
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Can someone tell me why this thread exists? The F80 is going out of production in the coming year (2018)

Is BMW really gonna put out a "special" model for one calendar year?

I get why the F82 CS is gonna exist. The EOP is 2020.

This is a pipe dream thread
So you are speculating that these test mules represent mere R&D exercises? That's fair, but if that's your opinion, why not just say that instead?
Yes. It's too late in the "life cycle" for this edition to be released. You don't agree?
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