BBS FI-R 19' vs HRE R101 R19'

[CSanto]

Those spoke holes might be an SOB to clean if you have Iron brakes.

Overall the BBS wheels are a way better value. Less weight and cheaper? Also I'd get the R101 in the 10.5 width rear. 305/30/19 to me doesnt look right with a 265/35/19 front tire.
Unless you are really low.

So on the 10.5 inch rear you can do 285/35 or 295/35 and it wont look stretched or anything


EDIT: If you want wide in the rear go 20". Get the 11 inch rear and do that same 295/30 or 305/30. It will look proportionate to the fronts since you will now go to the 30 profile in the front.

[silverstar335]

I would like to thank everybody for their feedback!

I went against conventional wisdom and placed an order for a set of HRE R101Ls. I know the BBS FI-Rs are tremendous but wanted a wider wheel in the back.

I still have not picked a finish, have a week or two to decide. Considering 3:

1) Satin Charcoal
2) Brushed Dark Clear , very popular it seems
3) Brushed Titanium, not as popular?

[Acree]

Originally Posted by silverstar335

I would like to thank everybody for their feedback!

I went against conventional wisdom and placed an order for a set of HRE R101Ls. I know the BBS FI-Rs are tremendous but wanted a wider wheel in the back.

I still have not picked a finish, have a week or two to decide. Considering 3:

1) Satin Charcoal
2) Brushed Dark Clear , very popular it seems
3) Brushed Titanium, not as popular?

Do you have any accent colors picked out for the car?
Do you want it to look more showy or conservative?

[silverstar335]

Originally Posted by Acree

Do you have any accent colors picked out for the car?
Do you want it to look more showy or conservative?

I have a MW with a Carbon Roof, Carbon Fiber Mirror Caps, OEM Carbon Fiber Rear Diffuser, OEM Carbon Fiber Rear Spoiler (not yet installed), emblem and exhaust tips from the Competition package.

MW on Satin Charcoal looks fantastic:

[Acree]

Originally Posted by silverstar335

I have a MW with a Carbon Roof, Carbon Fiber Mirror Caps, OEM Carbon Fiber Rear Diffuser, OEM Carbon Fiber Rear Spoiler (not yet installed), emblem and exhaust tips from the Competition package.

MW on Satin Charcoal looks fantastic:

Agreed, but so does brushed dark clear. Since you have no real color on your build other than the brake calipers, I would go with a finish that stands out more.

[2SNAILS]

Originally Posted by silverstar335

I would like to thank everybody for their feedback!

I went against conventional wisdom and placed an order for a set of HRE R101Ls. I know the BBS FI-Rs are tremendous but wanted a wider wheel in the back.

I still have not picked a finish, have a week or two to decide. Considering 3:

1) Satin Charcoal
2) Brushed Dark Clear , very popular it seems
3) Brushed Titanium, not as popular?

I think u made the right choice by going with HRE's! I had the same dilemma as well back and forth between bbs & hre. Its a win win situation either way as both are awesome wheels. What swayed me over to HRE was that u can build wheels to your specs and custom offsets. As far as finish all three would go well with your MW but i definitely would choice dark brushed clear as my first option, it just looks so
bada$$!

[silverstar335]

Originally Posted by 2SNAILS

I think u made the right choice by going with HRE's! I had the same dilemma as well back and forth between bbs & hre. Its a win win situation either way as both are awesome wheels. What swayed me over to HRE was that u can build wheels to your specs and custom offsets. As far as finish all three would go well with your MW but i definitely would choice dark brushed clear as my first option, it just looks so
bada$$!

I totally agree, it was the wider wheel in my case that swayed me over to HRE.

I am not trying to put David@WheelsBoutique on the spot here but he has "promised" me a side-by-side photo of a set of HRE wheels in Brushed Dark Clear and a set in Satin Charcoal. Adding a set in Brushed Titanium to the "photo shoot" will be a plus.

[dmk08]

HRE because customizable with better finish options.

[remmib]

Originally Posted by silverstar335

I totally agree, it was the wider wheel in my case that swayed me over to HRE.

I am not trying to put David@WheelsBoutique on the spot here but he has "promised" me a side-by-side photo of a set of HRE wheels in Brushed Dark Clear and a set in Satin Charcoal. Adding a set in Brushed Titanium to the "photo shoot" will be a plus.

Through in a set of gloss charcoal and I love to see that. I've been looking for brushed dark and gloss charcoal in the same pic for ages.

[Desborough]

Satin Charcoal on Yas

[specterbmw]

Originally Posted by 2SNAILS

I think u made the right choice by going with HRE's! I had the same dilemma as well back and forth between bbs & hre. Its a win win situation either way as both are awesome wheels. What swayed me over to HRE was that u can build wheels to your specs and custom offsets. As far as finish all three would go well with your MW but i definitely would choice dark brushed clear as my first option, it just looks so
bada$$!

Understand that just because you can 'Customize" a wheel doesn't mean it is safe for the race track. The biggest benefit of BBS over hre is that the BBS Fi-R or BBS rims in general are TUV and UN/ECE 124 that is why you get them only in specific offsets. Track capable and able to handle additional lateral forces and stress to the rim without failure.

An if your just looking for looks then of course customization is what you want.

[HRE_Wheels]

Originally Posted by specterbmw

Understand that just because you can 'Customize" a wheel doesn't mean it is safe for the race track. The biggest benefit of BBS over hre is that the BBS Fi-R or BBS rims in general are TUV and UN/ECE 124 that is why you get them only in specific offsets. Track capable and able to handle additional lateral forces and stress to the rim without failure.

An if your just looking for looks then of course customization is what you want.

Forgive me if you meant otherwise, but based on what you're saying my assumption is that you're saying BBS is TUV approved but not HRE? We have had our manufacturing facility TUV approved since 2008.

Rather than upload the entire text about TUV approval, if you're interested in reading more you can check out our article here - HRE EXPLAINS: WHAT IS TUV?

Just want to clear that up just in case others had the same assumption about HRE and TUV approval/certifications.

[sales@vivid]

Both are great options, in my opinion, and both have pros and cons. A pro for BBS is that they are lighter, but a con is that there is no custom options for color or offset like HRE. If you like the color that BBS offers, and the customizing doesn't matter to you, i would go with the weight and money savings and go with BBS. You cant lose either way you choose. If you need some help with getting a set ordered, i would be happy to help.

[specterbmw]

Originally Posted by HRE_Wheels

Forgive me if you meant otherwise, but based on what you're saying my assumption is that you're saying BBS is TUV approved but not HRE? We have had our manufacturing facility TUV approved since 2008.

Rather than upload the entire text about TUV approval, if you're interested in reading more you can check out our article here - HRE EXPLAINS: WHAT IS TUV?

Just want to clear that up just in case others had the same assumption about HRE and TUV approval/certifications.

Hello HRE,

The OP had stated that one of his reason behind the purchase of hre over BBS was the lack in size/offsets. I was simply trying to make a point that the reason why BBS has limited selection is because all of their rims are sent to be lab tested TUV for geometric tolerance analysis and testing for fatigue and impact certification. BBS is a race driven company so all of their rims are generally thought of as Track proven.

I know you are TUV certified but not all of your rims are ACTUALLY certified as stated in your web link but are designed so as to pass the test;

b) WHEEL TESTING CERTIFICATES (Certification of wheels as conforming to geometric standards and having passed structural fatigue and impact requirements for specific vehicle and load rating requirements) - Once a manufacturer’s facility is certified they are then able to send wheels to Europe to pass TUV geometric tolerance analysis and testing for fatigue and impact. This is not a generic style-based test, but vehicle-based with each style being tested with the proper widths and offsets and load rating for the appropriate vehicle targets. This is a very time consuming and costly endeavor for any manufacturer to TUV certify their entire wheel offering, particularly a brand like HRE that makes custom fitments and offers dozens of styles for any particular vehicle. Given this fact, HRE does not certify every style and fitment, however we do have multiple styles in several fitments tested, approved and certified for sale in Germany, Switzerland and Austria. Regardless of certification, ALL HRE wheels are designed to pass TUV structural specifications (with varying load ratings depending on vehicle targets) and are sent for certification when the demand for them in Europe meets a minimum threshold.

[silverstar335]

The wheels will be here hopefully next week . For those of you who have gone down the path of aftermarket wheels and a suspension change, what is the recommended sequence of "events"? Suspension change, wheels change, drive 500 miles and let the suspension settle, return adjust/lower the suspension and do alignment?

Thanks!

[ptper]

Originally Posted by silverstar335

The wheels will be here hopefully next week . For those of you who have gone down the path of aftermarket wheels and a suspension change, what is the recommended sequence of "events"? Suspension change, wheels change, drive 500 miles and let the suspension settle, return adjust/lower the suspension and do alignment?

Thanks!

This is my plan:

Suspension change
drive 500 miles and let the suspension settle
return adjust/lower the suspension and do alignment
wheels change (in the spring...scared of salt!)

[silverstar335]

Originally Posted by silverstar335

The wheels will be here hopefully next week . For those of you who have gone down the path of aftermarket wheels and a suspension change, what is the recommended sequence of "events"? Suspension change, wheels change, drive 500 miles and let the suspension settle, return adjust/lower the suspension and do alignment?

Thanks!

My wheels have been delayed , the order was accepted on Dec 28th.

[VeloF1]

Originally Posted by silverstar335

My wheels have been delayed , the order was accepted on Dec 28th.

When's the new delivery date? What color did you choose? Wheels look/sound outstanding!

[silverstar335]

Originally Posted by VeloF1

When's the new delivery date? What color did you choose? Wheels look/sound outstanding!

I went with the HRE's R101LW in Satin Charcoal , last week of February.

[VeloF1]

Originally Posted by silverstar335

I went with the HRE's R101LW in Satin Charcoal , last week of February.

Excellent color choice for your color of car!

[shay2nak]

Same boat here. Glad you went with the HREs.

I thought the HREs were lighter than OP quoted and only within a pound of the BBS. I was initially thinking of the BBS, but I don't like the design when seen straight on. The spokes are flat and thin, no shape. Then I saw the HREs and really like them a lot. They look great at all angles, but only the 19s. I've seen 20s and larger with different offsets and the wheels looked flat. At least the F8x has some concavity.

I voted HRE.

[mikex25]

Originally Posted by VeloF1

What don't you like about the rear offset? Performance issues? Appearance? Both? Other?

They are not aggressive enough I run the R101 in 19x11 et 39 with ad08r 305 tires (are in general beefier tires) and they are a perfect fit. Any higher and they wouldn't look as aggressive.