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M135i with sound symposer plugged in (stock): M135i with sound symposer unplugged (silicone breast implants removed ):
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The best news regarding the new m3/4 for me is that the e90/2 m3 will be dropping in price! But seriously, I've never been unimpressed by any gen m3
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09-28-2013, 03:34 PM | #114 | |
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I think it's clear that this technology is evolving rapidly. I don't know that much about it but it seems clear that these are simply algorithms that are being sorted through. I also imagine that they can be updated fairly easily via a software update. |
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The manual car has a paddle on the steering wheel that turns this feature on/off.
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That engine sounds really boring, kind like firecrackers.
If we were comparing to motorcycles I would say the F82 sounds like a harley, dull and monotonous and the E92 sounds like a race bike (or ferrari ). Last edited by V8FunNaturally; 10-02-2013 at 11:19 PM.. |
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that being said, I would prefer the e46 M3 over the e92. |
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I do like the E46 as well (Especially the small convertible) but the E92 M3 sounds much better and drives better. |
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I know professional audio engineering very well, I have experience in that field and I can easily see through marketing language being used here. When they say not artificial sound, that is wordplay. From the time a signal is sampled it is no longer natural as it always gets colored by the microphone spectral response, location of the microphone, resonant cavity the microphone is placed in to shape the sound spectrum or transform it. It will happen anyway. They can easily put the microphone is a tube or cavity that will act like an acoustical filter and that will completely modify the spectrum of the sound. Digitally sampling the sound of an engine you already need to apply an antialiasing filter (you don't want the wind noise to fold down in spectrum and mix with your low frequencies). There is nothing natural about what they are doing. Nowadays you can easily digitally sample any sound, apply the desired frequency transformation to it to make it sound different without amplification. It has nothing to do with playing pre recorded sounds, all this can be done real time. There is no debate here, they have this because the true engine sound is terrible. If you contend with this show me your PhD degree in acoustics or signal processing.
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Although I hate active sound, it is not a deal breaker for me. I am sure there will be some ways to disable it.
I don't think it's the matter of true engine sound being terrible. To me, straight six engines all have beautiful sound. I am especially partial to turbo straight six because I used to own a Supra. I loved the sound. I think it's more of a matter with cabin sound proofing being so good in modern cars, especially BMW. As for the turbo lag, it really isn't a issue at mid to high RPMs. As long as turbo is within operating RPMs, throttle response is not a problem for me. Some of the fasted time attack cars are turbo. Sure, NA's response will be always better. However, with modern technology such as twin-scroll(well, not really new tech but I see it being used on production cars more and more these days), turbos also have pretty decent power while providing great power potential. I will take a good turbo setup over a NA simply because of the power potential as simple exhaust and ECU tune can easily provide 50+hp on cars like M4. |
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