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Thanks for the review and updates. Between you and Racer, how can anyone NOT get the adaptive suspension??
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Thank you for this review...yet another thing that confirms my decision to move up from my 335. Really appreciate all the inputs.
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07-02-2014, 03:29 PM | #93 | |
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Good point about using S2 for a smooth DCT gearchange. I always used S2 on my F10 M5, because i felt S3 was too thumpy and violent, and actually upset the car for a nano second, but S2 was virtually as quick, but made for smoother and quicker progress. |
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Nice review but it's hard to believe the M3 out accelerated a 997 Turbo in 3rd gear on the track. That is unless the 997 Turbo was in the wrong gear, not trying that hard, had a timid novice driver, or the M3 is underrated and actually has closer to 480-500hp. That said, it still sounds like a great car, and a great improvement over the E90 M3 I used to have.
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Awesome notes. Thank you.
The thing with the HUD is that with a manual transmission, you always know which gear you're in because of how gears are physically positioned and the tactile feedback you're receiving into your body from the shifter. With DCT, it almost feels like one might be unsure about his current gear especially when you're already in 6th, braking hard and downshifting 3 gears. HUD gives you confidence that the transmission is downshifting properly at the speed you desire, without the risk of taking your eyes away off the road (at least for a non-pro driver -- I'm realizing being in 6th gear is kind of an unrealistic speed for anything else than the track). Also, in mountain roads where there isn't enough visibility and your vision ends at the apex, you can't really look too far ahead. So HUD is conveniently positioned. So for street driving, with DCT, I'd say HUD is a great feature. On a track with manual gearbox, maybe not so much. What's your take on that please? Am I completely off here? Last edited by kinimod; 07-02-2014 at 11:02 PM.. |
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So an extra ~50-75 horses, ~50-75 lbs less weight averaging out strippers and loaded cars (not a huge amount, but considering people on here spend thousands to save a fraction of that, pretty damn good for a bigger car), then add proper brakes, solid subframe (which they finally learned on the GTS), improved suspension and chunkier tires, the car truly is as track ready as any car M has put out, so I'm not sure what everyone is complaining about. Sure, you can pretty much replicate or exceed most of this on the previous model with aftermarket stuff, but it's super nice to just get all that straight from the manufacturer. I love my E92 and I don't regret any of the modifications I made to it, but it was a bit aggravating to drop another 10-15 grand in mods after already spending 65. Then again, optioned out the new car hits 90K, so I guess you better get what you pay for. Last edited by modkrazy; 07-02-2014 at 11:37 PM.. |
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07-07-2014, 07:33 AM | #105 |
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Onefastdoc - By all accounts, the M3/M4 does make a bit more power AND has significantly less drivetrain loss than a 997.1 turbo. In-gear, rolling acceleration should out-accelerate the 997.1 turbo.
Also, they weigh about the same. Not really mysterious here to me? |
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07-07-2014, 07:34 AM | #106 | |
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140+ mph it is not convenient to even glance down at the speedometer. In the e92 the numbers were small as well. Better on my Porsche but the main reason I ended up getting the executive package is the heads up display. Will make it very easy to benchmark speeds at certain locations without interrupting normal vision. Not bad to be sure of gear either if you select dct.
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Which is amazing to me - that car had a twin turbo 3.6 liter engine using very cutting edge tech (variable turbines) AND had a top speed of around 198mph so it's aerodynamics are excellent too. Nonetheless, if they are trapping the same, the numbers tell the story on outright power. |
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07-07-2014, 07:44 AM | #108 | |
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I need more time sitting in right seat with drivers using their HUD but I think they are less smooth because no matter how subtle it is their focus is diverted momentarily from driving to looking at the info flashing in front of them. its not connect the dots and every corner will be slightly different each time around.
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another trick we do in a clinic is tape up the bottom quarter of the windshield. stays that way entire day. talk about exciting! haha. best to do that in a wide open track like buttonwillow.
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Thanks for the review karussell.
You are the guy that thought me basic seating position, mirror position, and things to look for when on the track. In fact you came along as shotgun instructor in my E92 M3 Jerez Black on Fox Red for a lap on North Loop a while back. Anyway i never know how fast I go while on the track, I never have time to look at the instruments with exception of quick glance at the water temp. Having said I got Exec Pack just for the gadgets. |
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