Would you trade your M4/M3 for M2?

[silver_mcoupe]

Nope - 10 days into M3 ownership after I changed my order from M4 to M3.

Considered M2 also - I have no regrets.

[MacaoM3NJ]

I owned a Dinan Stage 2 M235i... although not the M2 I would not consider trading my 17 ZCP for the M2. Once I got past the driving the car felt too small for me and when not beating on it the interior was not much to look at. I'm also liking the modification potential of the S55.

[Golfster]

Trade for an M2, no. I'd consider adding an M2 for rowdy yet basic transportation.

[Theeleventhreel]

Not a chance

[imyourmaster]

Originally Posted by Golfster

Trade for an M2, no. I'd consider adding an M2 for rowdy yet basic transportation,

That's it! What I've been waiting for

[JibSTir13]

Nope.

[bloke79]

One thing to consider (in case you haven't already) is the size of the M3/4.

Even though the weight of both cars is very similar, the M4 to me feels like a very big car. This makes placing it on the road a bit more tricky than an M2 is.

I've had smaller cars my whole life (Currently own an S3 Sedan as well), but TTRS, Lotus Exige V6 S, Evo, WRX etc etc, and the bigger nature of the car will take a bit of getting used to.

Interior wise (Where you spent all your time), as others have said, the M4 feels like a MUCH more expensive car than the M2. I'd also say that the compliance of the suspension, even though it's probably stiffer on the M4 ZCP is better than in the M2. I'm guessing that's probably to do with the $$$ extra in the adaptive suspension.

I wouldn't switch to an M2 though, as the points above are what I care about - this is a daily, so quality of interior and compliance is important.

Cheers,
matt

[E92 M Sport]

No. Lack of customization options is a deal killer. It's a nice car, but just not special enough. I get that it's built to a price, but I wanted to built it the way I did. Can't do that in the 2.

[Ian1973]

No for a lot of reasons, one being I'm 6'4" and appreciate more room of the F80, two being the uprated interior, three being the performance. I don't see the M2 weighing significantly less to make it worth moving down to a physically smaller size.

I'd be curious to see how much the N55 in the M2 is underrated. We obviously know the S55 is about 40hp under reported, but doubt the slightly breathed on N55 would be hiding that much.

[ssuene93]

I like the flexibility of having a 4 doors sedan. I will stick on my F80 for a while.

[imyourmaster]

Originally Posted by Ian1973

No for a lot of reasons, one being I'm 6'4" and appreciate more room of the F80, two being the uprated interior, three being the performance. I don't see the M2 weighing significantly less to make it worth moving down to a physically smaller size.

I'd be curious to see how much the N55 in the M2 is underrated. We obviously know the S55 is about 40hp under reported, but doubt the slightly breathed on N55 would be hiding that much.

Dinan measured 360 hp on the M2 N55 when finding a base number to improve on.

[MFNATIK]

Originally Posted by Alpine300zhp

This is a good way of putting it. Many people say the same thing when comparing the M3 to M5. M5 is more grown up. It really boils down to what that individual is looking for in a car.

Thats very accurate. Now the question begs is how grown up?

M2 = 20s-30s
M3/4 = 30s-40s
M5/6 = 40s-50s

[Intensemojo]

no but i will test drive the new ZL1. yes i know but it is so fast.

[imyourmaster]

Originally Posted by MFNATIK

Thats very accurate. Now the question begs is how grown up?

M2 = 20s-30s
M3/4 = 30s-40s
M5/6 = 40s-50s

Holy crap... is this true? Am I trapped with the mindset of a 20-30 year old? Damn... according to your scale I am supposed to be driving a M5 or M6...why is there a M2 in my garage??

[MaynardZed]

I'd consider an M2, but I don't fit in one with a helmet on.

FWIW, I maintain the lap times thread in the track section and have recently allowed M2 owners to post times there since their board is kind of slow. Very comparable M2 times to M3/4, pretty much a drivers "race" between the two platforms as far as I can tell so far. Why so close in times? If I had to guess, I'd say the M2 might be a little easier to drive closer to its limit than the M3/4. The M2 should be a really nice car for the average track junky.

[AustinGelbM4]

Nope.

[nyc f82]

No thanks, definitely a downgrade. I'll stick to my m4

[M-Pilot]

Originally Posted by imyourmaster

Dinan measured 360 hp on the M2 N55 when finding a base number to improve on.

Dinan always reports crank hp. So according to their finding, M2 is actually overrated. Just for reference, Dinan also reported 503HP for M4 ZCP. Seeing several 450~ whp range dyno results of ZCP, obviously 503HP is the crank HP.

[Ian1973]

Originally Posted by imyourmaster

Dinan measured 360 hp on the M2 N55 when finding a base number to improve on.

So it's roughly the same, underrated by about same, 40hp or so.

EDIT: Oh that is crank hp? With the F8x, they reported roughly 460hp or so at the crank.

[Alpine300zhp]

Originally Posted by MFNATIK

Thats very accurate. Now the question begs is how grown up?

M2 = 20s-30s
M3/4 = 30s-40s
M5/6 = 40s-50s

Looks about right. I guess I ll be in the m4 for another decade or so.

[imyourmaster]

Originally Posted by Ian1973

So it's roughly the same, underrated by about same, 40hp or so.

According to BMW the M2 N55 is rated at 365 hp at the crank. Dinan measured 360. So I would conclude BMWs reported 365 hp is overrated by 5.

To be absolutely accurate both dynos had to be done on the exact same equipment with the exact same conditions which I would think is not the case. So .... imo no 100% accurate conclusion can be drawn from these numbers.

['Cane]

No. Love my M4, interior of the M2 seems like a huge downgrade.