Preference- Late model '15 M4 vs early '16 M4?

[absoluteis350]

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Given the option of getting a '15 M4 mid year, or waiting another 6 months for the '16 M4, which would most people do? Personally, from an emotional standpoint, I'm not sure I can wait. That's also 6 months closer to the time the car will look old due to the model refresh.

[fabolous]

I dont think the MY16 will come out until mid 2015 at the earliest (which is a year later, not 6 months)

[dmk08]

Lease a 15 - trade it in on Comp Pack purchase when it comes out. That's my plan.

[mkoesel]

Originally Posted by fabolous

I dont think the MY16 will come out until mid 2015 at the earliest (which is a year later, not 6 months)

He was talking about it from the perspective of an actual plan for a mid-model-year purchase, not buying today or soon.

[fabolous]

Originally Posted by mkoesel

He was talking about it from the perspective of an actual plan for a mid-model-year purchase, not buying today or soon.

I understand now. I personally would buy sooner. Usually with new cars they can have alterations during the MY and doesnt necessarily have to be when the MY changeover.

When i got my 991 almost a year into production there were lots of little differences through the year. my is a MY13 built in late september. Starting a month later (still MY13 obviously) there were un-retrofitable changes with the navi/audio system. Kind of annoying but what can ya do?? Just buy and stop worrying about those things. Unless youre willing to spend lots of bucks you will always be chasing the latest.

[Drift Master]

Thats what the warranty is for. If anything needs fixed they will recall it and i dont mind having a loaner for a day till i get it fixed. Most updates are not that important if u plan to drive it on the streets. The comp pakage will matter somewhat when u are on the track. Enjoy it today and stop thinking about the future and if it matters that much you can trade it in 2 years latter.

Drive it like you stole it for 2 years

[absoluteis350]

Originally Posted by Drift Master

Thats what the warranty is for. If anything needs fixed they will recall it and i dont mind having a loaner for a day till i get it fixed. Most updates are not that important if u plan to drive it on the streets. The comp pakage will matter somewhat when u are on the track. Enjoy it today and stop thinking about the future and if it matters that much you can trade it in 2 years latter.

Drive it like you stole it for 2 years

Thanks

[RealStig]

Originally Posted by dmk08

Lease a 15 - trade it in on Comp Pack purchase when it comes out. That's my plan.

How do you trade in a lease? You can only do a lease take over, and there is no way you'll get anyone to take that expensive lease payment in 2 years when residuals will be a lot higher. Not unless you are giving away financial incentive (like 100 bucks off from the payment as cash - which would work, but would cost you a lot of money).

[ozinaldo]

First year models are to spot and to fix the issues for any manufacturer and especially for this generation M3/M4 with so much (some new) technology loaded in these cars. So, I would wait for a 2016 model if possible.

Finance-wise advantages in some markets where lease is popular, more color choices including frozen colors, a probable Competition Package, some options becoming standard equipment etc. are among side benefits that one can hope for while waiting too.

[UK6]

If you want to wait, why not wait till the next generation, maybe the one after.

[Carl L]

Originally Posted by ozinaldo

First year models are "to spot and to fix the issues" for any manufacturer and especially for this generation M3/M4 with so much (some new) technology loaded in these cars. So, I would wait for a 2016 model if possible.

Why the quotes? This seems to be nothing more than your opinion....

[CanAutM3]

Originally Posted by absoluteis350

Given the option of getting a '15 M4 mid year, or waiting another 6 months for the '16 M4, which would most people do? Personally, from an emotional standpoint, I'm not sure I can wait. That's also 6 months closer to the time the car will look old due to the model refresh.

It is the other way around, the 2015 MY is likely to get a very long production run (15+ months) before the 2016 MY comes out. I don't want to wait that long

[Needsdecaf]

Originally Posted by Carl L

Why the quotes? This seems to be nothing more than your opinion....

Please. Look at any of the new models BMW or any manufacturers have released. The first customers are always the final testers.

I have owned a first MY car for 2004, 2007, 2011. Believe me, they all had their issues. The Acura (2007) was the best, the BMW and Volvo were tied for last. Easily 1/2 dozen issues or updates.

F10 BMW:

Steering pull to the right
Bluetooth mics - switched suppliers
Extreme throttle lag - recalibrated
Recalibrated steering
Added Combox
Electrical drain problems.

[BRAISKI]

Originally Posted by Needsdecaf

Please. Look at any of the new models BMW or any manufacturers have released. The first customers are always the final testers.

I have owned a first MY car for 2004, 2007, 2011. Believe me, they all had their issues. The Acura (2007) was the best, the BMW and Volvo were tied for last. Easily 1/2 dozen issues or updates.

F10 BMW:

Steering pull to the right
Bluetooth mics - switched suppliers
Extreme throttle lag - recalibrated
Recalibrated steering
Added Combox
Electrical drain problems.

It will never "right" the first time plus they will also have better packages. Example my N55 e92 came with the Individual Sound for the Executive Package.

For now I'm happy with my N55 335xi then after I'm tired with it about 2-3 yrs then I will get the M4, the N55 will be my winter beater

[ss134]

Originally Posted by ozinaldo

First year models are "to spot and to fix the issues" for any manufacturer and especially for this generation M3/M4 with so much (some new) technology loaded in these cars. So, I would wait for a 2016 model if possible.

Finance-wise advantages in some markets where lease is popular, more color choices including frozen colors, a probable Competition Package, some options becoming standard equipment etc. are among side benefits that one can hope for too.

First year models are not to spot and fix issues at all. The car will have been tested extensively before release. If any unforeseen faults do develop they will be fixed under warranty.

I see you own a 1M- this was only produced for just over a year so by your logic no one should have risked buying this car?!

[ozinaldo]

Originally Posted by ss134

First year models are not to spot and fix issues at all. The car will have been tested extensively before release. If any unforeseen faults do develop they will be fixed under warranty.

I see you own a 1M- this was only produced for just over a year so by your logic no one should have risked buying this car?!

Logic?

More like apples to oranges and let me explain why I say so:

We all knew 1M would be limited, long before it was available and it would be limited at least by the time frame that it would be built. BMW even modified its plans and ended up building over 6000 instead of around 2700 which was the initial plan. So, it was a situation of you either go and buy it and do it quickly or not and like most owners I did order mine without even seeing one, in fact before the production started; because I knew what I wanted very well and given the conditions I accepted the risks.

On the other hand, F80/F82 will be produced for how long? Probably at least 5 model years, maybe even more. We know that as a fact too. So, potential buyers have a choice here in terms of waiting or not which is all this thread is about, isn't it?

Another detail: 1M was a parts bin car (a great one but still), most of its significant components were tested extensively for a good deal of time...unlike the F80/F82.

I would skip the first year unless I can't wait due to some important financial reason. That is my opinion, nothing more nothing less. I happily read others as long as they are provided with its own logic as well.

[stefan]

If BMW follows traditional fashion, it would be wise to wait for the second year of production.

[ozinaldo]

Originally Posted by Carl L

Why the quotes? This seems to be nothing more than your opinion....

Sorry, didn't want to imply at all that they are anything more than my opinions, I should write it differently. Already edited that post.

[Carl L]

Originally Posted by ozinaldo

Sorry, didn't want to imply at all that they are anything more than my opinions, I should write it differently.

No apology necessary, was just confusing so thanks for clearing it up bud.

[ss134]

Originally Posted by ozinaldo

Logic?

More like apples to oranges and let me explain why I say so:

We all knew 1M would be limited, long before it was available and it would be limited at least by the time frame that it would be built. BMW even modified its plans and ended up building over 6000 instead of around 2700 which was the initial plan. So, it was a situation of you either go and buy it and do it quickly or not and like most owners I did order mine without even seeing one, in fact before the production started; because I knew what I wanted very well and given the conditions I accepted the risks.

On the other hand, F80/F82 will be produced for how long? Probably at least 5 model years, maybe even more. We know that as a fact too. So, potential buyers have a choice here in terms of waiting or not which is all this thread is about, isn't it?

Another detail: 1M was a parts bin car (a great one but still), most of its significant components were tested extensively for a good deal of time...unlike the F80/F82.

I would skip the first year unless I can't wait due to some important financial reason. That is my opinion, nothing more nothing less. I happily read others as long as they are provided with its own logic as well.

The fact is that your statement of ' first year models are for manufacturers to spot and fix problems ' is just incorrect.
No manufacturer puts out it's first year models to let their customers be the guinea pigs and then spot and fix the problems that arise . They would go out of business.
Of course, first year models are more likely to have issues and obviously the manufacturers will remedy those issues for subsequent years.
If this is what you meant then we agree but you should have articulated your point better.
If you genuinely believe that manufacturers release cars in the first year to customers so they can spot and fix problems then I will say again, no they don't - you are wrong.

[nicknaz]

I'm planning for late model '15 because hopefully there will be some dealers with leftover allocation who are willing to do a deal close to euro delivery invoice because it is close to the model year change over....

[pkimM3r]

im hoping they will have HUD as a separate feature that can be bought stand alone in the future...maybe i wont be able to get an m4. lol.