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      07-10-2015, 08:39 PM   #1
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Installed Meth in My M4, Pulls Like a Train

Hey guys, before I had my M4, I had a 2011 335xi (which I still happen to have). Around 20K miles, I had a meth kit installed because as everyone knows, N55's with the PWG suck when it comes to power. I had already had a JB4, AR DP, and Vanguard exhaust, I needed something more. Installing a meth kit was the best thing I could have ever done for my 335. The car changed dramatically just like when I first had the JB4 installed.

I know the topic of installing a tank that contains a highly flammable liquid inside the trunk of your car can make some people wary. In my quest for more power on my N55, I was willing to take the risks. But I took precautions... stainless steel lines with -4AN fittings were a must to prevent leaks. From 20K miles up to 60K miles, not once have I ever had a problem with meth on my 335i. Not ONCE.

When I got my M4, I knew I'd be installing a meth kit eventually. I wanted my car ready for the Slipstream Raceway event in Poconos Raceway. I didn't really have to buy anything, as I had all the parts from my 335i install to begin with. I did end up getting a new JB4 FSB just because it has a newer design compared to my old one. My kit consists of mostly custom acquired parts:

DevilsOwn Pump
DevilsOwn DO5 Nozzles (same as CoolingMisst CM5)
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Custom braided lines made from my local speed shop
Various -4AN fittings to connect all the parts
BMS Meth FSB

Here's some pics of my setup:









The entire install was done by the awesome guys at PetrolWerks in Lindenhurst, NY. They're awesome and the install took less than a day.

The kit was installed last night, unfortunately I was not able to test the kit because it was raining like cats and dogs. I knew the kit was working as I was able to "prime" the pump to clear air bubbles using the JB4. I had no choice but to test the meth effects during the Poconos Raceway event itself. My M4 managed to trap the highest compared to the other F8X with a 9.04@143.8mph

The second video is of Lalit@AutoCouture's M4. Lalit's M4 is flashed with the ACM flash. It was my first time seeing a flashed M4 (especially with only 280ish miles ) and obviously racing one. All I can say is.. flashed cars are the REAL deal. Lalit's M4 with just a DP and a flash, was on my tail and I'm FBO with AWE non res exhaust, DP, meth, and JB4. I was a flash non believer, now I am a believer. I'm not sure if I would make the switch yet, but I'm considering the possibility.

Here's two videos with logs showing how the F8X responds with meth:






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      07-10-2015, 08:54 PM   #2
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Nine seconds at 142mph!!!!!????!!!???1111????!!!!

Holy carp!

Well done
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Nine seconds at 142mph!!!!!????!!!???1111????!!!!

Holy carp!

Well done
Nooo it was a rolling race. Not a drag race lol. From 60mph onwards. Sorry. I should have clarified that.
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Ah wait. I watched the videos. That was rolling starts. Still nicely done
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Pretty crazy. And pretty cool
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      07-10-2015, 09:19 PM   #6
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looked great today and did pretty good against some heavily modified cars !!

I had no idea the black m4 was flashed
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      07-10-2015, 09:29 PM   #7
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Install looks top notch, I ran meth on my STi back in the day and never had a single issue neither as long as it was installed correctly.
9 seconds 60-140 is no joke
Nicely done !
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Wow that is some great power! Have you done any 1/4 mile runs from a dig?
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      07-10-2015, 10:00 PM   #9
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Is your car dyno tuned and what map were you running?
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Damn you destroyed that VT2-625 M3! On average, how often do you need to fill the tank? Is it a 50/50 meth/water mix, boost juice or something else?
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Nice setup.. What nozzles did you settle on?

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      07-11-2015, 11:55 AM   #12
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Ah wait. I watched the videos. That was rolling starts. Still nicely done
Thanks!

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Pretty crazy. And pretty cool
It was my first time at such an event. It makes me jealous how much more fun the west coast is with NFZ & ShiftSector

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looked great today and did pretty good against some heavily modified cars !!

I had no idea the black m4 was flashed
Thanks Brian! It was nice meeting you yesterday!

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Install looks top notch, I ran meth on my STi back in the day and never had a single issue neither as long as it was installed correctly.
9 seconds 60-140 is no joke
Nicely done !
It was actually a 64mph start for my 142mph trap. I started at 67mph for my 143.8 trap. I'm not sure if the 67 mph counted tho. The traps that count are usually between 55-65mph start.

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Wow that is some great power! Have you done any 1/4 mile runs from a dig?
Not yet but I plan to on Sunday at Atco.

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Is your car dyno tuned and what map were you running?
I dynoed the car pre-meth at 518whp on map 6 and 512whp on map 7. 492whp on map 2. I'm running map 8 now, which is the progressive meth map for JB4.

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Damn you destroyed that VT2-625 M3! On average, how often do you need to fill the tank? Is it a 50/50 meth/water mix, boost juice or something else?
Lol yeah, I didn't know it was supercharged until after the race. I wouldn't know yet on how much I have to fill it. I had a 80% of the tank filled by the time I started racing and went down to 50% towards the middle. I topped it up by then. On my old 2.2 racing tank from DevilsOwn, I'd have to fill up every 2-3 weeks. I'm assuming this tank I'd fill it up every week or other week.

I used .8 gallons of M1 VP Racing Meth, and .2 gallons of boost juice. I wanted some water for the cooling effects.

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Nice setup.. What nozzles did you settle on?

Mike
Thanks Mike! I'm using DO5 nozzles which is the same as the CM5.
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Thanks Mike! I'm using DO5 nozzles which is the same as the CM5.
Good move thats what I recommend as well. Dual CM5 setup.

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Meth is in my future for sure. Thought I kicked the habit after I left go of my N54 but now the cravings have returned. Nice info Op thanks for posting.

I am a little surprised to see that IATs hold same temp. I would have thought a small reduction over time when at WOT.
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Meth is in my future for sure. Thought I kicked the habit after I left go of my N54 but now the cravings have returned. Nice info Op thanks for posting.

I am a little surprised to see that IATs hold same temp. I would have thought a small reduction over time when at WOT.
The stock F8x cooling is so good that the only point in using meth for this platform is to raise the fueling limitations. If and when BMS is able to work with a flash like they do for the N54, meth will be pretty much useless.
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Thanks Tim! Btw I changed my number. Not sure if you texted me since. But it's 212.627.xxxx. The last 4 digits are the same as my previous one.
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Thanks Tim! Btw I changed my number. Not sure if you texted me since. But it's 212.627.xxxx. The last 4 digits are the same as my previous one.
Cool man. Let's roll soon.
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Nice to finally meet you brother, PM me your cell number so that we can stay in touch. Hope to flash tune the beast soon

For those wondering, OP won the first race but I took him the next.

OP's car: JB4, downpipes, E85, meth, AWE exhaust. Best trap 142.xx
My M4: ACM stage 2 bench flash, downpipes. Best trap 141.xx
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Nice to finally meet you brother, PM me your cell number so that we can stay in touch. Hope to flash tune the beast soon

For those wondering, OP won the first race but I took him the next.

OP's car: JB4, downpipes, E85, meth, AWE exhaust. Best trap 142.xx
My M4: ACM stage 2 bench flash, downpipes. Best trap 141.xx
Yeah I will! Are you gonna go to the unsanctioned SS event this Sunday? I think Mo said he would bring the M4/M5 on Facebook yesterday.

Also you're forgetting you had MS109
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Yeah I will! Are you gonna go to the unsanctioned SS event this Sunday? I think Mo said he would bring the M4/M5 on Facebook yesterday.

Also you're forgetting you had MS109
It was more on the 100 blend side, picked up the car with a full tank of 93
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I understand what you are saying about the flash...but how safe is that flash tune? Is it pushing the motor to its limits...that wont last?

One thing I am confident with in using my jb4 - the tunes are safe, and not overly aggressive.

What does the flash tune have that makes it better? More boost? More timing?

Doesnt sound safer if thats the case...could be playing with fire.

Dont get me wrong - a flash tune safer than a piggyback - sure....but not necessarily if your simply increasing parameters.
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