F8X M3/M4 Macht Schnell wheel spacer reference thread

[davey111483]

Originally Posted by swifty

Do you feel any kind of understeer on very fast turns?

I haven't gone to the track with this setup but yeah i kind of feel a bit of an understeer on fast turns. Here she is though with the new look.

[swifty]

Originally Posted by davey111483

I haven't gone to the track with this setup but yeah i kind of feel a bit of an understeer on fast turns. Here she is though with the new look.

The more I drive it the more I'm getting understeer on turns I would usually oversteer a bit and then the diff would work its magic. Going to try 12mm square.

[grigiof80]

Anyone sporting 18F on swift springs (or similar drop) on stock 19s? I just installed 15mm all around and the front is a bit sunk compared to the rear-which is perfectly flush. I've seen pictures of 18F but on stock suspension so it's hard to gauge.

Thanks in advance

[ptper]

Originally Posted by kevin @ eas

RAD makes a wheel lock that would work both 15mm and 12mm. Only thing is they are in silver and not black.

14x1.25 Cone Seat? What length?

[kevin @ eas]

Originally Posted by ptper

14x1.25 Cone Seat? What length?

I would go with a 38mm length.

[ptper]

Originally Posted by kevin @ eas

I would go with a 38mm length.

Thanks!

What would it would be with no spacers?

[kevin @ eas]

Originally Posted by ptper

Thanks!

What would it would be with no spacers?

Generally speaking stock bolts are around 26mm.

[tom @ eas]

GTS M4 fitted with Macht Schnell spacers.

Before





After







Year/Model BMW
2016 M4 GTS

Wheels/offset
Front: 19 x 9.5 Style 681M, ET29
Rear: 20 x 10.5 Style 681M, ET42

Tire size
Front: Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2, 265/35-ZR19
Rear: Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2, 285/30-ZR20

Suspension
Stock GTS, Track Mode

Spacer size
Front: 12mm
Rear: 10mm

[rjtsc583]

What size spacers would inner if I'm running the stock satans?
Would eventually get lowering springs but would like to get this sorted out first to see if I would even require lowering.

Would 15 square be too much?

[kevin @ eas]

Originally Posted by rjtsc583

What size spacers would inner if I'm running the stock satans?
Would eventually get lowering springs but would like to get this sorted out first to see if I would even require lowering.

Would 15 square be too much?

If you are going square I would go 12mm all around. 15mm on a lowered car I would say is too much and would rub.

[rjtsc583]

Originally Posted by kevin @ eas

If you are going square I would go 12mm all around. 15mm on a lowered car I would say is too much and would rub.

Thanks Kevin!

[Kief]

Noob here...picking up my '17 M3 ZCP Sakhir any day now!

I've eyeballed this Thread, but would like confirmation from the experts here what size spacers you would recommend for the ZCP strictly for appearance purposes? I do not plan on lowering the car. Obviously, I do not want any rubbing or other issues. Also, do spacers prematurely wear down tires faster? Do I need an alignment after install?

Thanks

[jzmundy]

Originally Posted by Kief

Noob here...picking up my '17 M3 ZCP Sakhir any day now!

I've eyeballed this Thread, but would like confirmation from the experts here what size spacers you would recommend for the ZCP strictly for appearance purposes? I do not plan on lowering the car. Obviously, I do not want any rubbing or other issues. Also, do spacers prematurely wear down tires faster? Do I need an alignment after install?

Thanks

Can't speak to the tire wear question (though I haven't observed anything out of the ordinary myself on previous cars), but I think generally folks forego an alignment after installing spacers.

If you're not planning on lowering, I think 10mm square or 10/12mm F/R suits the car well with the 666s. The Youtube video below includes a good look at the 10/12mm setup (about 7min in).

[Kief]

Originally Posted by jzmundy

Can't speak to the tire wear question (though I haven't observed anything out of the ordinary myself on previous cars), but I think generally folks forego an alignment after installing spacers.

If you're not planning on lowering, I think 10mm square or 10/12mm F/R suits the car well with the 666s. The Youtube video below includes a good look at the 10/12mm setup (about 7min in).

Thanks man!
10/10 would probably be perfect for me.
I went straight to the 7min in to see the car, but his isn't lowered is it?

[jzmundy]

Originally Posted by Kief

Thanks man!
10/10 would probably be perfect for me.
I went straight to the 7min in to see the car, but his isn't lowered is it?

No problem! I do believe he's on stock suspension in that video. gtsussex is this you?

[gtsussex]

Originally Posted by jzmundy

No problem! I do believe he's on stock suspension in that video. gtsussex is this you?

Yup, that's me. Yes, car was on stock suspension then. Car's a lot different now. Running KW V3's so quite a lot lower and now on 437's rather than the 666's. Have taken spacers off the back as now running 295/35's.

[kevin @ eas]

Originally Posted by Kief

Noob here...picking up my '17 M3 ZCP Sakhir any day now!

I've eyeballed this Thread, but would like confirmation from the experts here what size spacers you would recommend for the ZCP strictly for appearance purposes? I do not plan on lowering the car. Obviously, I do not want any rubbing or other issues. Also, do spacers prematurely wear down tires faster? Do I need an alignment after install?

Thanks

You wont see any difference in tire wear with spacers. On a comp package we generally run 12mm front an 10mm rear. I generally stay in that ball park of 10's and 12's. No alignment needed.

This car came in the other day running 20mm front and 18mm rears.

[Kief]

Originally Posted by kevin @ eas

You wont see any difference in tire wear with spacers. On a comp package we generally run 12mm front an 10mm rear. I generally stay in that ball park of 10's and 12's. No alignment needed.

This car came in the other day running 20mm front and 18mm rears.

Thanks
Yeah 10/12 or 10/10 would be good for me.
That pic above is too aggressive IMO

[jzmundy]

Originally Posted by kevin @ eas

You wont see any difference in tire wear with spacers. On a comp package we generally run 12mm front an 10mm rear. I generally stay in that ball park of 10's and 12's. No alignment needed.

This car came in the other day running 20mm front and 18mm rears.

What suspension is the ZCP car running? Thanks!

[kevin @ eas]

Originally Posted by jzmundy

What suspension is the ZCP car running? Thanks!

I didnt catch what suspension he had unfortunately. Definitely looks lowered.

[d00bies]

anyone got pics of 2015 m4 lowered on stock wheels with 12mm front and 10mm rears?

[kevin @ eas]

Originally Posted by d00bies

anyone got pics of 2015 m4 lowered on stock wheels with 12mm front and 10mm rears?

I went through all the cars we have done and doesnt look like I have any pics of a lowered 12/10 setup. This is 2015 lowered with 15/12:
https://europeanautosource.com/blog/...ne-a-drop.html

Here is 100 all around but with no drop
https://europeanautosource.com/blog/...cosmetics.html