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07-08-2014, 06:39 PM | #25 |
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I feel very similarly to you on the C63 and M4
M-DCT is WAY, WAY, WAY better than MB's option... that is the single biggest improvement MB could make to the C63 IMO.
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Very interesting review. I find that the seats are great but the leather they used I'm not really fond of. The car has torque which I love. The HUD is a must have spoil. I have driven around 1400 miles on car and truly enjoy the brakes. The DCT to me is amazing.
Thanks for the review
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Thanks for your input. Very honest and level-headed review!
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Can you comment more on ride quality when used as a daily driver? Compared to your C63 - is the cabin noise more in the M4? More road noise? Wind noise? Engine noise when normal driving? Anything to comment on compared to your AMG as a daily driver? Thanks. |
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I agree with your comments about the rear look and exhaust. I am not a fan of the slanted exhaust tips. What do you think of the picture below? That is the look I want . I will get the MPE and diffuser as soon as they are released in the fall . |
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The other thing I like about the F82 (and E92 for that matter) is the thickness of the steering wheel. That may be insignificant to many but I really dislike thin steering wheels (Porsche are the worst IMO) and a steering wheel is your most direct interface with the car itself. The C63 wheel wasn't "thin" necessarily but it was much less meaty where you grip it at 9 and 3. I find the meatier steering wheel feel in the M cars much more enjoyable and sporty.
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07-08-2014, 08:42 PM | #33 |
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Not to answer for the OP but my impression is the F82 and the C63 (with PP) pull in a similar way. If anything, the F82 feels a bit more explosive (in a good way) but that could simply be the way torque is delivered in a turbo car versus a NA car. I think you will find the F8X is pretty close to your "ideal" car with a ton of muscle and even better agility than the E9X M3. The more I think about it, the more the F8X is kind of like a bastard child of a C63 and E92 M3 with the best traits of both
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I too had a test drive of an M3 today and I enjoyed it. With all the hullabaloo regarding the sound, I was very skeptical and man what a bunch of trolls out there commenting on a car the haven't heard in person. I've owned the E90 M3 and I was asked 'which is better?'. Neither is better than the other; they both are great. The E90 M3 without an aftermarket exhaust actually sounds a bit muted and tame compared to other V8s. Even my X5 50i with turbos I think sounds better than a stock E90 M3. However the E90 M3 had a unique, smooth run out to 8,400. This new F80 M3 is loud(drove with the windows down) and as others have said 'manic'. It crackles, its raspy, its throaty and there is a bit of engine and turbo noise as well when you let off. I know I spent the last 8 sentences trying to explain the exhausts but they simply are different.
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I think the HUD will just annoy me to death. The thing is, I don't want to know how fast I'm going, and I certainly don't need more reasons for road rage. I'm cool with the ones I already have.
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Once you get to around 4,500-5,500 rpm, the C63 really pulls like a freight train. The C63 will happily break loose the rear tires when mashing the gas from a roll. I think that the LCI/tuned/507 Edition C63s (i.e., MCT-equipped cars) will start to gain a bit on the F80s/F82s during rolling highway pulls. Quote:
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However, the MCT is excellent during normal driving in Comfort mode. It is very smooth and the downshifts are imperceptible (which is nice when you're wanting to take it easy). Quote:
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I cannot comment comprehensively regarding the wind noise topic because I had the windows down the entire time (so that I could hear the ferocious exhaust note better). I didn't hear any creaks or rattles while driving the M4 (my C63 doesn't have any either). I daily my C63 quite a bit and absolutely love it. With the MCT set to Comfort mode, the shifts are seamless and the exhaust note is somewhat subdued (but still throaty). During casual driving, the AMG's engine and exhaust notes are a bit more pronounced. That said, with the Active Sound doing its job, you still hear plenty of engine and exhaust sound when cruising in the M4. The C63's cabin is well insulated but with the windows down and the car in S+ or M Mode, both the motor and exhaust are very loud/raucous. That's just the nature of the beast. Whenever I have buddies following me, they tell me that the C63 sounds absolutely gnarly. Apparently the car sounds even better if you are directly behind the exhaust. I expect nothing less from a 6.2L NA V8. Quote:
I absolutely love the M Performance Exhaust and diffuser. When I get my F80 M3, those two upgrades are a must for me. BMW absolutely knocked it out of the park with the M Performance line. AMG could benefit from a similar line. They have released a few upgrades for the C63 via the AMG Performance Studio (upgraded cooling package, alcantara steering wheel, alcantara gear selector with AMG/Affalterbach logo, etc.). AMG's aftermarket offerings still pale in comparison to BMW M's Quote:
I'm a sucker for the flat-top, flat-bottom wheel in the C63. I also enjoy the perforated leather found on the 9 and 3 positions. That said, the M4 steering wheel had a very nice thickness and quality feel. The leather was more supple than the leather on my old F30 M Performance wheel. Furthermore, the contrast stitching looks really, really nice. Quote:
I've had the ceramic controls before on my 750i. They are a very nice touch. They would look great in the M3/M4.
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Thanks for great review
I have couple questions and appreciate if you have time to answer... 1. I know and I feel DCT is so fast and as you said when grab the shift it's there, but what do you mean with "jerkier than MCT" ? are you referring to smoothness of MCT over DCT at gear changing? 2. Did you have chance to drive in MDM mode? if yes how was it?
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Thanks for the review. Loving the Silverstone. 95% this will be my color of choice. Any more pics BTW?
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1. With the M-DCT, when you lift off the pedal without braking in lower gears, the engine braking effect is rather intense (I don't mind it). Furthermore, if you gently accelerate and then suddenly lift off in 1st (again without braking immediately), the car has a tendency to "buck" a bit as it slows down. All of this can be easily avoided though as the user/driver is the one manipulating the throttle/braking inputs and the transmission settings/shifting programs. The MCT is just a bit more forgiving in the same situations. I hope that all made sense. 2. I did have a chance to utilize the MDM. I was able to have fun but the tires were a little on the slick side. We also had a heavy downpour here earlier in the morning so some patches of road were still moist. Quote:
I do have several additional photos! I will post them up or provide the link sometime in the morning.
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Nice write up. Thanks for sharing.
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