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Read through the reviews and its clear that every reviewer thinks they are great cars.
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But that isn't the closing statement. The paragraph goes on:
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....and then gives it a 9/10 score. It isn't the E90. it's not my father's old '71 GTO either, but for 2014 it is (apparently) the the right car. Again: let's drive 'em. |
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Now it is one hell of a daily driver, which will suit a much wider audience. |
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Dumb question that has probably been answered before but how does the synthesized engine sound through the speakers work when playing music? The sound of the engine increases with the volume of the music?
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Ha, Roundel. Bias much.
It isn't all roses in the independent reviews. There are some criticisms of the cars. There is conflicting reviews on the electric steering. I want to hear from reviewers that I respect their opinion (Harris, Sutcliffe, Meaden). Harris is going to complain about ride, because he always bitches about that. With the subframe directly bolted to the car it seems to ride rough. I have no doubt they will end up being great cars. Just more street friendly. Can't wait to see them at HPDE and see how they hold up in the heat. I know one thing I heard the MotoGP Safety Car M4 in person, it sounds really good. |
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No big surprises here. Some pretty mediocre journalism too.
I found it particularly "entertaining" in the one (forget which one) article going on and on about the CSiC brakes being perhaps the best thing on the car (not to mention all cars were only equipped with those brakes not the standard ones). The chassis is clearly the best thing on the new car, more on that just below. The chassis and seating sound like a big highlight and improvement over the existing car, lower CG, lighter weight, better seating position, more rigid and rigidly attached subframes, lots of clear win here. These are key engineering things M really got right that make the chassis better. As others have pointed out the sound, engine character and overall excitement of the car are a bit lacking and clearly lacking as compared to the existing car. I also noted a clear contradiction about the ease of driving the car on limit which contradicts the prior leaked BS from BMW about how this car will punish inexperienced drivers or some such nonsense. Any car in this power and weight range can do that, but overall the car seems quite neutral and well mannered on limit. I too, like solstice, certainly took some offense to the Roundel folks bashing many of its own members from "the interwebs" so much. Seems clear some of them are here reading and perhaps participating here and in other forums as well. Many of us here, do to leaks, research, community and sharing pretty well knew what these first reviews would be like before they even came out. They are also guilty of a common and basic misunderstanding of their own view on why the S55 is better than the S65 (their opinion, of course). It isn't because of more torque or an "ungodly torque band" (the S65 has a far superior torque band, in fact), it is because of more power at lower rpms and reaching peak power early in the band (which is again is good for performance but worse for excitement). I suppose all of the fans and professionals and even the CEO of F1 are also "nattering wannabes" because they care about the huge lack of an engaging volume and sound quality now present in F1. Bite me Roundel... Wake up and have a bit more respect. It doesn't take an actual listen to the actual car to pretty well know it isn't going to sound as good as a NA V8 in a high state of tune. The significant decrease in ride comfort is a bit worrisome but is only to be expected with the significant chassis changes. Last but not least I found it a bit surprising that the DCT didn't get much praise. I suspect it is better than the DCT in the current car, which to me gets a solid 9.5/10. Perhaps folks are already spoiled by how great the current box is, or maybe it is actually a small step backward. Each person is likely going to find just what they wanted to hear in these articles. I'm no exception. There hasn't been any big surprise(s) here significant enough to move me closer to parting with my current car in exchange for a new M3/4.
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The current car has a feature for music loudness compensation to match current cabin noise. This feature can be fine tuned or disabled. The new car will also certainly have such a feature. My strong suspicion is that the specific feature which pipes in engine noise through the stereo will have this same kind of feature such that is depends both on current engine load and rpm (possibly even on music volume) but also on ambient cabin noise. However, the intensity of this feature will not at all be user adjustable nor can one turn it off.
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Somebody care to share what the "M Drivers Package" is? (In the MT article)
One thing I found worrying is that all of the cars were apparently equipped with CCBs. Seems awfully defensive of BMW to not provide at least a few cars with stock brakes.
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Sorry, should have been more specific. Saw the point about the limiter, just didn't see it as a US option.
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