Suspension

[JL1]

Hey Guys,

Looking at doing a few track days in my F80 M3.

Any recommendations on suspension and brake setups ?

[Race82]

Go for the M Performance HAS to retain warranty and EDC settings, and assuming you have steel brakes and not CCB, drop a set of Pagid RS29s in. Sugget you consider Tyres and Pads before suspension... MPSC2 are best all round option if using stock rims.

[JL1]

Originally Posted by awbmw

Go for the M Performance HAS to retain warranty and EDC settings, and assuming you have steel brakes and not CCB, drop a set of Pagid RS29s in. Sugget you consider Tyres and Pads before suspension... MPSC2 are best all round option if using stock rims.

Hey mate,

I'm thinking of buying a set of Volk TE37's for a bit more R rated tyre choice, The MPerformance HAS is Just KW V3's isn't it ? What is the MP HAS kit worth ?

[Race82]

Originally Posted by JL1

Hey mate,

I'm thinking of buying a set of Volk TE37's for a bit more R rated tyre choice, The MPerformance HAS is Just KW V3's isn't it ? What is the MP HAS kit worth ?

Good idea to buy second set of track rims and run R Specs on those and PSS on your daily, as the stock wheels are great but can go lighter and wider. Just make sure you get the right offsets, there's heaps of info on here to work out the best specs for you.

M HAS is similar but different to KW, again plenty of info on here...best to read up. Not cheap but retains warranty and EDC and they aren't cheap cars to begin with so nice to have peace of mind... check with your local dealer, circa $4k I think.

[05C4R]

definitely go with upgraded pads as awbmw suggests, stock pads tend to warp the rotors.
you don't need suspension upgrades.
get a set of 18" Apex wheels, square set up with 295 front and rear, get some Yoko A050 tyres and not much will keep up - trust me

[brownb_2]

if its just a few track days, why not just run stock? unless your chasing lap times? i think learning and knowing the track will give you better times than upgrades

i agree with just brakes and tyres, but maybe just need pads as a start?

[Race82]

Originally Posted by 05C4R

definitely go with upgraded pads as awbmw suggests, stock pads tend to warp the rotors.
you don't need suspension upgrades.
get a set of 18" Apex wheels, square set up with 295 front and rear, get some Yoko A050 tyres and not much will keep up - trust me

Agree for most part, but I like a staggered set up - otherwise a050 is number 1 choice but need to have second set of 18" wheels, if retaining stock 437M wheels MPSC2 is best option.

[JL1]

Originally Posted by 05C4R

definitely go with upgraded pads as awbmw suggests, stock pads tend to warp the rotors.
you don't need suspension upgrades.
get a set of 18" Apex wheels, square set up with 295 front and rear, get some Yoko A050 tyres and not much will keep up - trust me

What are APEX wheels? Pretty keen on a set of Te37's

You reakon 295 all round?!! I suppose that way you could rotate tyres

That's pretty full on, i was thing 265 front 295 rear?

[Race82]

Originally Posted by brownb_2

if its just a few track days, why not just run stock? unless your chasing lap times? i think learning and knowing the track will give you better times than upgrades

i agree with just brakes and tyres, but maybe just need pads as a start?

PSS are rubbish on track - unless it's wet

[brownb_2]

Originally Posted by awbmw

PSS are rubbish on track - unless it's wet

wouldnt know, ive got the continentals

[Race82]

Originally Posted by brownb_2

wouldnt know, ive got the continentals

Interesting, is the first F8X I've heard of/seen with continentals... whats the name/type of conti tyre and sizes did they come with?

[Stuart@BMRAutowerkes]

Originally Posted by awbmw

Interesting, is the first F8X I've heard of/seen with continentals... whats the name/type of conti tyre and sizes did they come with?

they still came in the same sizes being 255/35/19 and 275/35/19, Conti SportContact5P.. I've seen a handful of M3s / M4s of varying build dates with them, seems to be luck of the draw but majority roll on PSS

[brownb_2]

Originally Posted by Stuart@BMRAutowerkes

they still came in the same sizes being 255/35/19 and 275/35/19, Conti SportContact5P.. I've seen a handful of M3s / M4s of varying build dates with them, seems to be luck of the draw but majority roll on PSS

[domino_z]

i ordered a set of michelin ps4s to rid my zcp of some of that nvh from the stiff sidewall oe star spec mpss'

is anyone in Aus running the bilstein b16? they are available with an edc plug in option to retain oe 3 defined in car settings

i've never been a fan of M dampeners, it's their one let down imo, and can just imagine how good this chassis would be with a proper compliant suspension setup

i had PSS10's on my old E46 and they worked really well

[theriz]

I would run coilovers not springs on the track....

[05C4R]

Originally Posted by JL1

What are APEX wheels? Pretty keen on a set of Te37's

You reakon 295 all round?!! I suppose that way you could rotate tyres

That's pretty full on, i was thing 265 front 295 rear?

https://www.apexraceparts.com

these guys have great track wheels for bmw's

don't even consider any other size other then 18's and if you can get A050's. 295 at the front is like shooting crack cocaine, the turn in is unbelievable but you cannot daily these they are horrible on the road.

a square set up worked really well for me and if you want to invest in wheels and a track set up why not get what works. if you want to do 2 tracks days a year then maybe just shred the current tyres and replace with a set of cup 2's and keep the same wheels.

[Race82]

Originally Posted by 05C4R

https://www.apexraceparts.com

these guys have great track wheels for bmw's

don't even consider any other size other then 18's and if you can get A050's. 295 at the front is like shooting crack cocaine, the turn in is unbelievable but you cannot daily these they are horrible on the road.

a square set up worked really well for me and if you want to invest in wheels and a track set up why not get what works. if you want to do 2 tracks days a year then maybe just shred the current tyres and replace with a set of cup 2's and keep the same wheels.

^^^ This

[JL1]

Originally Posted by 05C4R

https://www.apexraceparts.com

these guys have great track wheels for bmw's

don't even consider any other size other then 18's and if you can get A050's. 295 at the front is like shooting crack cocaine, the turn in is unbelievable but you cannot daily these they are horrible on the road.

a square set up worked really well for me and if you want to invest in wheels and a track set up why not get what works. if you want to do 2 tracks days a year then maybe just shred the current tyres and replace with a set of cup 2's and keep the same wheels.

Hey mate,

What Apex wheels do you reakon? i was looking at the APEX EC-7 wheels in an 18x9.5+22 18x10+25.

They are according to their website $1250 UDS which is roughly $1690 AUD + shipping. Pretty good value for money.

[05C4R]

Prices are great! you will spend more on tyres then the wheels lol, they are pretty light too. Sometimes they do group buys which work out a bit cheaper.

I can't remember if mine are EC 7 or 6 or whatever was available when I got them about 18 months ago. I'd email them and see what they recommend for an M3 and if there are any group buys happening.

[Race82]

Originally Posted by JL1

Hey mate,

What Apex wheels do you reakon? i was looking at the APEX EC-7 wheels in an 18x9.5+22 18x10+25.

They are according to their website $1250 UDS which is roughly $1690 AUD + shipping. Pretty good value for money.

good choice for front, but why not go for something larger 11" with an ET around 40-44? Not sure what their standard sizes are...