Pics added - After an E92 M3 and my current F82 M4 it's GT3 time

Bob Santorini · 03-07-2017, 04:55 PM

Just a note to say thanks for all the interesting posts and information on this site. I've enjoyed both my M cars, having taken the former to the 'ring twice but I've always wanted a Porsche and this year I have been lucky enough to pull enough funds to afford a GT3. It's a 997.2 model and my first 'investment' car, although I will drive it a lot.

I'm due to pick it up on Friday and will post pics when it's sunny and clean.

Take care guys.

Bob

DLag30 · 03-07-2017, 05:04 PM

Congrats.

Please post pictures and share your ownership experience. I would love to own a pcar one day.

RickFLM4 · 03-07-2017, 05:07 PM

Congrats and enjoy!

mrgicm · 03-07-2017, 05:07 PM

That is the only logical step forward from M cars...

dkhm3 · 03-07-2017, 06:11 PM

nice! congrats!!

Bimmed Out · 03-07-2017, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob Santorini

Just a note to say thanks for all the interesting posts and information on this site. I've enjoyed both my M cars, having taken the former to the 'ring twice but I've always wanted a Porsche and this year I have been lucky enough to pull enough funds to afford a GT3. It's a 997.2 model and my first 'investment' car, although I will drive it a lot.

I'm due to pick it up on Friday and will post pics when it's sunny and clean.

Take care guys.

Bob

Drive it and enjoy it. With the 991.2 GT3 officially announced to return to 6MT, I don't know how much you should be looking at the 997.2 as an investment. The investment potential was in it being the last manual GT3.

AJM1125 · 03-07-2017, 09:19 PM

Congrats!! Porsche's are fantastic cars

smr123 · 03-07-2017, 09:31 PM

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dr.mba · 03-07-2017, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by kepler

Drive it and enjoy it. With the 991.2 GT3 officially announced to return to 6MT, I don't know how much you should be looking at the 997.2 as an investment. The investment potential was in it being the last manual GT3.

This.... I hope you didn't have to break the bank on this one. I have been anxiously awaiting their announcement since alot of the Porsche inside guys already leaked that the 991.2 GT3 will have manual transmission. The price of 997 GT3s should take a bit (at least in my mind). I will be monitoring the market and may actually pull the trigger on one if the market responds to this announcement. For your sake I am hoping I am wrong.

M

nrgy · 03-08-2017, 12:15 AM

I think the 997 GT3RS still has "investment" value, not so sure about the 997.2 GT3 however. You should be able to retain your money in that car though depending on current mileage and how many you put on in the future but yeah I think all attention is on the 991.2 GT3 now starting at $143k. I can't see any intrinsic value in the 997 GT3 anymore that would command a rise in prices that would begin to approach that, but who knows.

But it doesn't sound like you bought it to look at and with access to the Ring you'll have a blast with that car. Regardless of future value it's still a GT3 and an awesome car to own.

Bob Santorini · 03-08-2017, 04:52 PM

Thanks. My investment comment was really just an opportunity and I'm aware of what the 991.2 may do to future values now that the manuals are back.
I did consider waiting but I tend to jump when funds allow and when the right vehicle comes up.
Primarily I've bought it to drive as it's a dream car for me and if it loses money I won't be too upset as i'm used to it having had a couple of new M cars.

A couple more sleeps to go...

Cheers for the comments!

Bob

nrgy · 03-08-2017, 10:20 PM

I think there's always going to be Porsche aficionado's who find value in any GT3 so I think you'll do fine with that car. Like you said, worst case you lose a little money on it but your driving a GT3, or maybe even the more likely scenario it holds it value and you essentially drive it for free!

What color did you get anyway? I've always loved the GT3, wanted one but every time I got the itch it was between production cycles and as you know used ones haven't been depreciating. I just couldn't see myself paying MSRP or over for a used car...I like to find deals lol!

Motorsportenterprise · 03-09-2017, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by dr.mba

This.... I hope you didn't have to break the bank on this one. I have been anxiously awaiting their announcement since alot of the Porsche inside guys already leaked that the 991.2 GT3 will have manual transmission. The price of 997 GT3s should take a bit (at least in my mind). I will be monitoring the market and may actually pull the trigger on one if the market responds to this announcement. For your sake I am hoping I am wrong.

M

The 997.2 is the last GT3 to have the Mezger engine. That alone will allow it hold its value. Even the 996 GT3 is holding very high if you can find them. Low mileage 996 GT3 will still sell for 75-80k and new they were only about 100 15 years ago. The 997 GT3s still hover around MSRP and the RS' at MSRP or higher. These cars are just not produced in big enough numbers to see prices dramatically drop. Each generation from Porsche from a GT perspective have a reason to be collected and desired.

Additionally, the 991.2 GT3 is likely to have a small take rate for manual. I'll be interested to see. The take rate of manuals on non GT 911s is only 5-7%. I ideally think the 991.2 will exceed that but may only be 10-12%, which still means very few manuals cars given the GT3 is a car produced in very small numbers (991 GT3 worldwide ~3300 cars). About 1/2 that to the US.

Bob Santorini · 03-09-2017, 03:11 PM

My car is dark blue metallic and in dull weather looks almost black in photos.
It's ideal for me as I didn't want a bright coloured car this time.

I agree on the mezger engine and that every model iteration seems to draw reason for collective value. As much as I love the 991 they are slightly too wide for my garage as I considered a 1yr old GTS (couldn't afford 991 GT3) and found the mirrors don't fold and therefore would be too close to the garage opening.
The 997.2 GT3 is narrower and has folding mirrors (albeit manually foldable but I can fold the drivers side whilst backing in if necessary).

Fingers crossed this time tomorrow!!

jeff@autocouture · 03-11-2017, 11:54 AM

Congrats Bob!

Bob Santorini · 03-25-2017, 12:38 PM

At last, sunshine on a weekend..
Had this beast just over two weeks now and loving it!

Bob

Brindle101 · 03-25-2017, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob Santorini

At last, sunshine on a weekend..
Had this beast just over two weeks now and loving it!

Bob

Congrats, enjoy! Love my M cars, but there is NOTHING like a gt3!

krnnerdboy · 03-29-2017, 11:48 PM

congrats Bob! I have had my .1 gt3 for over 5 yrs now and still grow to like it more everyday! just sold my f80 to add a 993 to the stable and an activehybrid3 as my daily. congrats again!

cotmfk · 03-30-2017, 02:07 PM

Beautiful car! Congrats and enjoy it in the best of health!

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Bob Santorini Private First Class 60 Rep 187 Posts Drives: F82 M4 Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: UK iTrader: (0)	Thanks. My investment comment was really just an opportunity and I'm aware of what the 991.2 may do to future values now that the manuals are back. I did consider waiting but I tend to jump when funds allow and when the right vehicle comes up. Primarily I've bought it to drive as it's a dream car for me and if it loses money I won't be too upset as i'm used to it having had a couple of new M cars. A couple more sleeps to go... Cheers for the comments! Bob
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Bob Santorini Private First Class 60 Rep 187 Posts Drives: F82 M4 Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: UK iTrader: (0)	My car is dark blue metallic and in dull weather looks almost black in photos. It's ideal for me as I didn't want a bright coloured car this time. I agree on the mezger engine and that every model iteration seems to draw reason for collective value. As much as I love the 991 they are slightly too wide for my garage as I considered a 1yr old GTS (couldn't afford 991 GT3) and found the mirrors don't fold and therefore would be too close to the garage opening. The 997.2 GT3 is narrower and has folding mirrors (albeit manually foldable but I can fold the drivers side whilst backing in if necessary). Fingers crossed this time tomorrow!!
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