After your F8x M3/M4, are you going to get a G8x M3/M4?

[ptper]

Maybe RS4 sedan/avant...if it ever makes it over.

[GrussGott]

Originally Posted by nicknaz

On the streets commuting, it was like an F30 335 and I could see folks not liking that and calling it "soulless" if they want an "always on" car

That's just the reality of a 'dual purpose car'...

maybe, but then I guess I don't want a dual purpose car. The e9x had real personality always. super grumpy under 50mph, then became a monster above it. That car felt alive.

The f8x performs better, and it's definitely fun to sport drive, but it does it all with zero personality: it's never happy or sad, it just is doing what you're doing. It's a robot dog.

If that's the trade off, then I'll take a single purpose car that's always badass.

[rr006rbc]

If there isn't a 6MT option then I'm buying out my current lease and purchasing extended warranty. Don't care how fast or good looking it is by then. I can't stand automatics. 17 years straight of driving manuals ain't stopping here.

[nicknaz]

Originally Posted by GrussGott

If that's the trade off, then I'll take a single purpose car that's always badass.

Yea, agreed. An all out out pure sports car is the best

But if you can only have 1 car and need 5 seats, f80 is the answer in my books. The cooling system, big power, fender flares and cf roof are

[shay2nak]

Nope. I bought the F80 6MT with the intention of keeping it the rest of my life.

[dongerkim]

If it has 4 doors, 6MT and RWD i’m in. If not, i would have to consider the stretching for a porsche. like reallyyyy stretching lol

[gatorfast]

Originally Posted by GrussGott

maybe, but then I guess I don't want a dual purpose car. The e9x had real personality always. super grumpy under 50mph, then became a monster above it. That car felt alive.

The f8x performs better, and it's definitely fun to sport drive, but it does it all with zero personality: it's never happy or sad, it just is doing what you're doing. It's a robot dog.

If that's the trade off, then I'll take a single purpose car that's always badass.

Completely agree Gruss. I love my F80 but really miss my E90 M3 My favorite car I have ever owned.

[cotmfk]

Originally Posted by nicknaz

DSC OFF at the track, F80 was so fun for me I can't agree it being "soulless".

On the streets commuting, it was like an F30 335 and I could see folks not liking that and calling it "soulless" if they want an "always on" car

That's just the reality of a 'dual purpose car'...

Sorry - maybe I was not very clear. I was not intending to call the F8x soul-less. I love this car so much!

I always drive around in Sport+, DSC reduced (only full off when I'm not on the street and sometimes with summer tires on and good weather). The car is fun this way even on the street. I don't really understand it when people say they drive around in comfort for everything.

[adc]

Originally Posted by cotmfk

Sorry - maybe I was not very clear. I was not intending to call the F8x soul-less. I love this car so much!

I always drive around in Sport+, DSC reduced (only full off when I'm not on the street and sometimes with summer tires on and good weather). The car is fun this way even on the street. I don't really understand it when people say they drive around in comfort for everything.

I’m with you. Not sure what people are smoking when they say the E90 was more soulful driving around the city at low speeds. It was somewhat gutless, what it was. You could get surprised by a determined mom in a Honda Odyssey if you weren’t paying attention.

What it did, undoubtedly, is emit expensive racing-sounding noises from the engine compartment. Unfortunately those noises turned into actual expenses as time went on.

To be clear, the suspension and general chassis demeanor of the E90 was more relaxed/softer than that of the F80. I drive on some horrendous city streets in the DC area and my love handle jolt-o-meter is registering higher in the F80. But, just as the expensive sounding engine was part of the E90 character, the tighter chassis/stiffer demeanor is part of the F80 character. They are things to be savored as distinct and unique flavors, not flaws, IMO.

[Ian1973]

Originally Posted by captainaudio

In the 1960s various GM models had hard tops that simulated the shape of a rag top. And that was followed by years of American cars that had vinyl clad steel roofs to emulate the look of a ragtop.

Yes dear. I was alive then. The greatest was the quarter fabric tops.

I kinda like the idea of a fabric top again, at least it doesn't take up most of the trunk like the hard top does. Being it is my only car, I need the trunk space.

[Ian1973]

Originally Posted by Snappy Phoenix

I'm not busting out on Ford. I'm busting out on fabric tops.

Like the Hulk? I'm here all night.

[Ian1973]

Originally Posted by gatorfast

Completely agree Gruss. I love my F80 but really miss my E90 M3 My favorite car I have ever owned.

So go get another one?

I'd consider an E92 M3. Prefer the look of it over the F82.

[ellipsis212]

I'll hold onto my F80 at least until the first LCI /comp pack is released for the G.

[gatorfast]

Originally Posted by Ian1973

So go get another one?

I'd consider an E92 M3. Prefer the look of it over the F82.

Maybe I will one day.

[pokerface]

Fulfilled a must-do/YOLO/#goalz with my recent acquisition. I'll probably hang onto this one for awhile.

[nicknaz]

Originally Posted by cotmfk

I don't really understand it when people say they drive around in comfort for everything.

Then complain the car is boring...or that it's slow when they are not using full throttle and sub 5k rpm.

so, regarding the G series m3, do we know if the dimensions with stay the same? I can't get it if it's longer than the current 185" due to garage space constraints

Hope the Supra comes with s55 because that would be my choice of m car

[Colinv6]

Originally Posted by GrussGott

It's kinda funny, but this is almost exactly what I said about the E9x which I really loved. I had no problems with the torque or fuel ... I had a real love affair with that car yet the F8x just seemed more modern. It made the E9x look old and outdated. Now, 4 years later, I saw a beautiful individual E92 last Friday and beyond the angel eyes I thought it looked great, not outdated, so ...

Anyway, the F8x is "better", certainly in performance, interior, etc, however it's also missing the soul of E9x ... Plus the 2018s are wussified, albeit better performers when driven in anger.

So, I'll be looking forward to the G8x ... especially if they can put the soul back.

100% agree with this, my Dad had an e92 M3 from new in 2008 until 2013 and by the time he sold it we both agreed it looked plain and dated.

Fast forwards 5 years again, and just yesterday I went to view and drive an e92 Comp pack coupe and we both agreed it looked absolutely fantastic, not dated at all and sounded and drove absolutely superb.

All in all, im not sure weather I’ll go G80, M2 Comp, or even just back to a late, low miler e92 and be happy knowing that it’s depreciation proof and has that V8 glorious powerhouse.

[///M4ster Yoda]

Originally Posted by nicknaz

Then complain the car is boring...or that it's slow when they are not using full throttle and sub 5k rpm.

so, regarding the G series m3, do we know if the dimensions with stay the same? I can't get it if it's longer than the current 185" due to garage space constraints

Hope the Supra comes with s55 because that would be my choice of m car

The Toyota ///M. I can't even believe that's a possible reality.

[Kimeran]

Originally Posted by GrussGott

maybe, but then I guess I don't want a dual purpose car. The e9x had real personality always. super grumpy under 50mph, then became a monster above it. That car felt alive.

The f8x performs better, and it's definitely fun to sport drive, but it does it all with zero personality: it's never happy or sad, it just is doing what you're doing. It's a robot dog.

If that's the trade off, then I'll take a single purpose car that's always badass.

I cannot agree with you more!

[cotmfk]

Originally Posted by nicknaz

Hope the Supra comes with s55 because that would be my choice of m car

I will be watching this. I think there is zero chance it comes with S55 off the bat. But maybe as a last year or two special edition model it will come with the G80 M3 motor. Who knows...

Less weight plus more power equals more fun.

[HPIA4v2]

Originally Posted by ///M4ster Yoda

The Toyota ///M. I can't even believe that's a possible reality.

BMW scared to death of Tesla, thus ready to sell soul to Toyota for electric car know-how.

[nicknaz]

Originally Posted by cotmfk

I will be watching this. I think there is zero chance it comes with S55 off the bat. But maybe as a last year or two special edition model it will come with the G80 M3 motor. Who knows...

Less weight plus more power equals more fun.

I am not holding my breath too much, because BMW's "all out factory track car" M4 GTS was kind of a bust and Toyota hasn't had a credible sports car in 20 yr

Not to mention I had an E89 Z435 and it was pretty much a fail as a sports car despite being a Boxster S competitor on paper

But hey, you never know